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[Proposal] Do not allow a WCS fitted ship to enter a FW PLEX
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-01-14 11:42:09 UTC
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As I would like to Improve FW and many good ideas come up in the Warfare & Tactics but don’t seem to make it over to this official forum as a “Proposal” I re-post the suggestions I like here for general support and official request.


Proposal: Disable the WCS functionality inside a Plex or simply not allow a ship with WCS fitted to enter the plex. This is to stop the amount of "alt" ships to enter FW with no intention of combat


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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2013-01-14 12:04:19 UTC
Wouldn't solve anything, all it does is make scanner spam mandatory, farm frigs will just warp out earlier.

Tweaking the rats back up (just did a large in a Slicer for goodness sake!) should be the first priority in regards to plexes. If the single current rat is deemed 'hard' enough (should hope not!!) then adding a couple extra in initial spawn might be in order .. need the tags either way so double whammy.

WCS abuse could be solved by only allowing one locked target with them fitted. Combined with the 3 above rats, you'd have to do some pretty fancy flying to survive, provided you are not using an alt/main to clear rats before committing the stab ship.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#3 - 2013-01-14 21:27:43 UTC
WCS come with penalties. Putting an arbitrary restriction on players that chose to fit them and take the penalties just because you can't get at them fast enough to tackle them is silly.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#4 - 2013-01-14 22:29:11 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
WCS come with penalties. Putting an arbitrary restriction on players that chose to fit them and take the penalties just because you can't get at them fast enough to tackle them is silly.


^^ Pretty much this....

Besides, after a short amount of time in FW plexes, you can learn who the "farming alts" are... then send in someone with enough points to hold them...
Commissar Veldt
Progressive State
#5 - 2013-01-15 08:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Veldt
Its still a step in the right direction at least.

Rats definately need changing again, as stated above, can run meds and large in frigates and destroyers which makes its easier for LP farmers.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-01-16 10:50:36 UTC
No one module should be barred from use because it is annoying. Trust me Im a pirate and there is nothing that gets me ranting harder than getting a shiny target to structure to have them warp off cause their stabbed to the gills. I just accept it as part of the game along with inertia stabs that allow frigs to align and warp almost instantly. Get more creative in your strategy to catch the stabbed ships...2 scrams will probably stop him and with his lows full of stabs its a pretty good bet he isn't running damage mods which should make it easy to pop him. Funny thing with farmers though, stabbed or not, they usually make enough isk loosing a ship here and there don't stop them from coming back.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#7 - 2013-03-30 00:07:02 UTC
Signed specifically for the FW context as a way to discourage farmers.

The problem with the arguments above is that there is no disadvantage to a farmer who fits them to his ship. He has no intention of fighting so who cares about the reduction in scan res etc?

I have no problem if I miss a travel-fit ship because of stabs - good use of game mechanics to make him safer. But the only use of stabs in FW is to farm. Simple as that.

Sure, it would only be a minor discouragement but it would sure make it more tolerable for the PvPers in FW regions.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zircon Dasher
#8 - 2013-03-30 20:23:35 UTC
Totally agree!

I only do FW so that I can shoot people. I do not care about CCP's "rewards" nor for artificial reasons to fight. I don't need reasons to fight in FW since fighting is the reason to be there.

All other priorities and opinions are wrong and should be nerfed.





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Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-03-31 10:17:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomi Knight
:O hmm so what does those alt ships do other than combat?
maybe fw should give reward for pvp and not farming plexes