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loki energon
Anasazi Wanderratter's Social Club
#21 - 2013-01-14 03:49:12 UTC
its not nearly as bad as it has been made out to be.
experiment with hams, learn to brawl, you ARE flying a drake, use the awesome tank to its fullest.
my HamDrake puts out over 640 dps at 18km.
also, look further into HMLs try different faction and T2 missles to see what combination works best.
hybrid and projectile turrets have always had tons of ammo types to dig through to find the one you need.
oh, and learn how to overheat, it wont give you more range, but it can give you needed deeps.

kill em all.
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2013-01-14 04:12:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
people on the internet will be rude when they're anonymous, just like drivers who are more or less anonymous and have no emotional reason to *not* cut you off. (then again, I drive a 400hp V8 luxury sport sedan so that they can't, and then feel poor -and- qwned)

and how you react is an indicator of how experienced you are on the internets.

I go on some sites now, and when people try to be rude cuz their life sucks, I'm all like 'lol F*****'

gentlemen have the right to defend themselves. [and ladies, if some dude wishes to be believed a lady.]
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#23 - 2013-01-14 04:43:01 UTC
The missile lost its flight time. Traded in for velocity, so they tend to be more rapid now. Drones were PvE nerfed as well.

Take longer, do less. Because EVE isn't grindy enough.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-01-14 04:43:26 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
What's changed?

Heavy missiles were balanced.

Righteously.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#25 - 2013-01-14 05:05:49 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
What's changed?

Heavy missiles were balanced.

Righteously.

And then some. I actually could not take down the tank of a Serpentis cruiser in a Level 2 mission with my Drake. Would have rolled through the mission like a scythe through grass before, but not now. I'm guessing I have to give up a massive chunk of tank for BCS and a TP.

Or just forget Caldari.

Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-01-14 05:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Cynter DeVries wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
What's changed?

Heavy missiles were balanced.

Righteously.

And then some. I actually could not take down the tank of a Serpentis cruiser in a Level 2 mission with my Drake. Would have rolled through the mission like a scythe through grass before, but not now. I'm guessing I have to give up a massive chunk of tank for BCS and a TP.

Or just forget Caldari.

Or maybe you should not expect a long range weapon to have the damage of a short range weapon.
Try heavy assaults.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-01-14 05:18:35 UTC
I ... have a personal feeling it was an indirect nerf to tengus and drakes -in wormhole sites- and tied in with ISK/hr related to that trend. not so much the dps/range thing, cuz i still have a few weapons that do better than heavy missiles prior to the balance.

#personalbelief #tinfoil
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-14 06:18:13 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
I ... have a personal feeling it was an indirect nerf to tengus and drakes -in wormhole sites- and tied in with ISK/hr related to that trend. not so much the dps/range thing, cuz i still have a few weapons that do better than heavy missiles prior to the balance.

#personalbelief #tinfoil


If you follow the dev blog info, and dev posts, this was an intentional DIRECT nerf to tengus and drakes, so that they could be rebalanced later, without skewing damage stats for other ships like the nighthawk, caracal, cerb, onyx, etc.
Signal11th
#29 - 2013-01-14 07:02:22 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Cynter DeVries wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Caitlynn Askyra wrote:
What's changed?

Heavy missiles were balanced.

Righteously.

And then some. I actually could not take down the tank of a Serpentis cruiser in a Level 2 mission with my Drake. Would have rolled through the mission like a scythe through grass before, but not now. I'm guessing I have to give up a massive chunk of tank for BCS and a TP.

Or just forget Caldari.

Or maybe you should not expect a long range weapon to have the damage of a short range weapon.
Try heavy assaults.



Lol why not? If anything throughout history the opposite is true. Its not like its actually changed anything anyway.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-01-14 07:13:43 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
[Lol why not? If anything throughout history the opposite is true. Its not like its actually changed anything anyway.

Are you joking? Drakes used to be the vast majority of blob fleets in nullsec. Since heavies were nerfed, you see more variety in fleet composition and newer creative doctrines that are more fun to fly than "anchor on this dude, leave your MWD on, press F1 repeatedly".

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Signal11th
#31 - 2013-01-14 09:09:42 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Signal11th wrote:
[Lol why not? If anything throughout history the opposite is true. Its not like its actually changed anything anyway.

Are you joking? Drakes used to be the vast majority of blob fleets in nullsec. Since heavies were nerfed, you see more variety in fleet composition and newer creative doctrines that are more fun to fly than "anchor on this dude, leave your MWD on, press F1 repeatedly".



nope I just see more blobs of other ships, you nerf/balance one ship and thne after a period of a month or so a new ship becomes the new drake. Pointless exercise in futility.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-01-14 10:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Signal11th wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Signal11th wrote:
[Lol why not? If anything throughout history the opposite is true. Its not like its actually changed anything anyway.

Are you joking? Drakes used to be the vast majority of blob fleets in nullsec. Since heavies were nerfed, you see more variety in fleet composition and newer creative doctrines that are more fun to fly than "anchor on this dude, leave your MWD on, press F1 repeatedly".



nope I just see more blobs of other ships, you nerf/balance one ship and thne after a period of a month or so a new ship becomes the new drake. Pointless exercise in futility.

There aren't any ships that are as prolific as the drake was, because it was literally the best ship for most situations.

Most fleets were Drake fleets, and then the rest were typically alpha fleets, welpcane fleets, and the occasional tech 3 and armor HAC fleets.
In place of the Drake we're seeing more tech 3 fleets, more tier 3 battlecruiser fleets, and more fleets of other varying composition. You take a shield battlecruiser roam out and it's no longer the case that 8/10 ships in the fleet is a Drake. You don't have fleet commanders disregarding other viable fleet options because Drakes are easy, tried, and true.

I flew the Drake all the time, and I hated it. It's one of the most boring ships in the game.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-01-14 11:05:27 UTC
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As the OP's question has been answered, and because it seems some people are only replying to level personal attacks or to troll, I will be closing this thread - ISD Type40.

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