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The Final Fix to ECM
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Durrr
Arzad Ammatar Defense Squadron
The Shogunate.
#21 - 2013-01-16 20:48:21 UTC
Eternal Error wrote:
Durrr wrote:
Eternal Error wrote:
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
just make jams suffer from diminishing marginal returns.

This already happens mathematically (i.e. there is currently no stacking penalty, but each jammer still is less effective than the last in terms of less % chance to lock).



I have no idea what you mean by this. As a simple example, assuming an ecm module jam strength of 6, and a target sensor strength of 12, we can assume a 50% jam for each module activated.

After 1 module, you have 50% chance to have jammed the target.
After 2 modules, you have a 3/4 (75%) chance of having jammed the target
After 3 modules, you have a 7/8 *87.2%) chance of having jammed the target.
After 4 modules, you have a 15/16ths chance of having jammed the target.
And so on, and so forth. Each module, increases the chance of having jammed the target by 50%.

This is different than say a stacking penalty which will give you x sensor dampening (I'm using sensor dampening as an example, feel free to input damage mod, armor/shield hardener, webifier, etc.).
The 2nd sensor dampener will only be roughly 88%x (I don't have the exact figures at my disposable, but these are good estimates) effective.
The third is roughly 54%x effective
etc.

That is exactly what I mean. If you have multiple targets on field, it is far more effective to spread jammers. I strongly suspect that the reason ECM is not stacking penalized is because it already suffers from diminishing marginal returns. Let's take a max skilled ECCMed guardian and round off--sensor strength of 45 without heat. Now, consider a cloud of EC-300s.
With 10 drones on the guardian, he is jammed ~20.1% of the time.
20 drones: 36.2%
35 drones: 54.5%
50 drones: 67.5%
100 drones: 89.4%

If you stacking penalize it, you simply make diminishing marginal returns happen much more quickly. The only likely practical effect is that the solo pilot who gets jammed out by that one guy with his falcon alt gets a few more shots off before dying. I agree that ECM is a broken mechanic, but stacking penalties are not the answer (nor is your proposal ITT).



I see what you are saying. Although each jammer still hits for x%, if used on a single target, that x% is of a smaller piece of the 100% pie, and hence is a de facto stacking penalty of sorts.
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