Warfare & Tactics

While I don't agree on the dumbing down of pvp within FW I do understand your arguments. I however feel that you may be looking for gameplay that is currently not available within the FW playerbase. It may well get back to something like what you are wanting but it will take time to re-evolve as the system has undergone such a radical change in the last 6-7 months.

The shiney fleets wasn't mean't as a reference to being able to fund them but being able to fly them competantly and be willing to fly them. Alot of the low SP players I know in Low sec are reluctant to fly them because there is a good chance with their current skillset they are paying 10x + isk for not a great deal more effectiveness. So they fly cheap T1 stuff until they have the SP/experience to fly 'shiney' all the time building their isk reserves so that can lost ships without worrying about.

95% of ushrakhan is new cynthia. they game into FW with a 40 man corp. Rest is new.


ps Cynthia please tell me how I can make billion an hour.

I am not in U'K' but as my character is born in 2006 I am considered as an "older" pilot. The answer to your question is simple: Some people have a real life and are simply not willing to spend their precious time to dumb activities like running missions to earn ISK to fund shiny ships. Instead they prefer flying cheap stuff and use it for fun things like PVP. And if you do this well, yes then you can fund your cheap losses completely from the loot of the victims you have killed, especially if they fit shiny faction stuff into their ship :-)

So basically fun funds the fun itself, which is a very desireable state once you get an own, real life.

I like how a thread about FW mechanics turned into CAOD: FW Edition so quickly.

That was some impressively fast plexing.

Good point but I doubt it'll work out that way.
If dust ever takes off I don't think any one will pay isk for Mercs.


It is very clear that Dust is a 'pay to win' game model.
But what is strange is - no one is buying the 'pay to win gear' - everyone is just using the free fits including me. I got my corp rank to 8th in win loss with one toon, free 'rookie' gear and CCP's fail exploitable rank system.
CCP is gonna make 0 dollars outta me with dust and I predict over the next 12 months from the entire player base they'll make TENS OF DOLLARS.


The reasoning imo:
Why waste isk on a suit, guns etc when you will get spawn killed 3 seconds later?
And spawn camping in dust is so easy that you can take it to a whole new level.
Sit on a roof and snipe a spawn point or even 2 spawn points at once if you find a good spot with no risk.


The idea of permanent loss of gear when killed that work in eve do not work in a fps.
People know they will die 5-6 times a match and quickly learn not to even bother changing suit fittings.
Maybe one or two either too rich or too stupids have - but they are such a minority that they do not effect the game. + they will die and lose that stuff within a min or two leaving them with the same rookie gear you are using.

While dust has potential to be more, it has already become the Spawn, Run ,Die, Repeat game like every other fps out there so sinking any isk/cash into it is only for the foolish.


Dust is good fun but it's not gonna be around for long.



At the moment I am avoiding playing it cause it puts players in matches that work against their own factions sov.

I recommend all fw players avoid dust until it's fixed and matches are not auto picked or you WILL be fighting against yourself and making your own life harder in eve if you plex.

Must be some fascinating life when you need internetfriends, you log in, you chat on TS for hours and you have same number of fights in 5 hours than me in 50 minutes.

Their gal/min developers and their CSM give them all the clear picture they need. You are playing the bad guy here, deal with it!

Caldari/Amarr still get more attention than Sansha/Blood Raider/Serpentis/Angel Cartel/Guristas roleplayers anyway.

Ideal scenario is both near midpoint in tier3 so we have a proper tug-o-war like in the old days (when it was done for honour and bragging). Tug'o'War is a battle of wills, slipping breeds resentment and anger which in Eve frequently turns into pew ..
Doomsayer in me warns me of a status quo with both safely in tier3 farming our collective arses off though, so hope something is said/done to promote the pew (see last paragraph).

Shakorites has/had a massive advantage in geography with more 'native' systems, most of which were tucked away behind a single access point .. that changed and the whole war changed. Why it wasn't done all those years ago when we first alerted CCP to error of their ways is beyond me ... best change to Amarr/Shakorite FW since navy frigs if you ask me.

Personal note: Curious how the Shakorites has apparently grown used to having a high tier with minimal LP investment so they now drop like a stone when the systems flip, makes one wonder if they even know how that part of the system works .. if they had any strategic sense they'd pump all systems, get as close to tier4 as possible and use that in the "motivational speech of the week".

All is pointless though as long as the wars are decided by whomever has the most alts .. wonder if we'll see a tweak or two come may to help stablilize it some or if it will be allowed to flounder until a whole series of changes are ready (ie. years from now).

Damn, I was gonna start flying SFI's when they hit 20mil isk, now what am I going to do. ;p