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Is this the right place to ask a scanning question?
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Mira Robinson
#1 - 2013-01-12 05:59:03 UTC
I know if you get a sphere, 1 probe picked up the sig, and a ring is 2 or 3, right? Dot/arrow is 4+?

So if I get a ring, that means the dot is somewhere on the circular path of the ring, right? Not within the ring?

Just get frustrated because I lose most signatures when I'm dealing with rings.

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Jack Miton
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Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-12 07:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
ring result means 2 probes are hitting the sig.
if you get a ring, the sig tends to be at the edge further from the center of your probes, if that makes sense.
here's a vid i made a while ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TisDb8c2aS4

see at just after 4min to see how to deal with rings. (same principle applies to less probes.)

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-12 07:29:15 UTC
It is confusing until you learn how to interpret the UI. The signature isn't inside of the sphere it's on the edge of it. Likewise, with a ring the sig is on the ring not within it. Once you have a hit with 3 probes it will give you 2 possible locations. If you have a yellow arrow then you have all 4 probes on it but your scan radios is just too wide to match a weak signal. All sigs will be within 4 AU of a planet which should help to narrow down just where along a given path to center you next scan. If you are clever about where you put your probes you can skip the whole "2 dots/yellow arrow" part.
Mira Robinson
#4 - 2013-01-12 07:41:00 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
It is confusing until you learn how to interpret the UI. The signature isn't inside of the sphere it's on the edge of it. Likewise, with a ring the sig is on the ring not within it. Once you have a hit with 3 probes it will give you 2 possible locations. If you have a yellow arrow then you have all 4 probes on it but your scan radios is just too wide to match a weak signal. All sigs will be within 4 AU of a planet which should help to narrow down just where along a given path to center you next scan. If you are clever about where you put your probes you can skip the whole "2 dots/yellow arrow" part.

Huh. That's weird. A few days ago, I came across a scanning tutorial on the Eve University site, which said if you get a sphere, 1 probe has hit, and it's somewhere in the sphere.

So the max probe load is 8, right? I'm at Astrometrics IV, and I can deploy 7 probes. All scanning support skills are currently at 3, and augmented by a Covert Ops V - I usually scan with an Anathema.

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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#5 - 2013-01-12 08:16:48 UTC
Sig is on the edge of the sphere, it will never be inside of it, always on the edge. Same for ring. Sig is on that line, not in the middle.

1 probe hit = sphere.
2 probe hit = ring.
3 probe hit = 2 dots
4 or more probe hit = 1 dot

If you see an arrow that just means that you're above 25% sig strength, so it should tell you what group it is in. (assuming I'm not remembering wrong, I scan so often, but almost never have to explain it.)
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#6 - 2013-01-12 09:35:43 UTC
Of course these are examples for regular placements.
For example, if you put all your probes on the same point, then you'll see a lot of spheres even if all of them have the sig in their range.

Also, by experience I can tell that the maximum for a signature to spawn from a planet is 5.5 Au.

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Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-01-13 05:40:59 UTC
Mira Robinson wrote:
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
It is confusing until you learn how to interpret the UI. The signature isn't inside of the sphere it's on the edge of it. Likewise, with a ring the sig is on the ring not within it. Once you have a hit with 3 probes it will give you 2 possible locations. If you have a yellow arrow then you have all 4 probes on it but your scan radios is just too wide to match a weak signal. All sigs will be within 4 AU of a planet which should help to narrow down just where along a given path to center you next scan. If you are clever about where you put your probes you can skip the whole "2 dots/yellow arrow" part.

Huh. That's weird. A few days ago, I came across a scanning tutorial on the Eve University site, which said if you get a sphere, 1 probe has hit, and it's somewhere in the sphere.

So the max probe load is 8, right? I'm at Astrometrics IV, and I can deploy 7 probes. All scanning support skills are currently at 3, and augmented by a Covert Ops V - I usually scan with an Anathema.

Yes, you can only have 8 probes out in space with maximum skills (Astrometrics V is actually somewhat useful for WH dwellers due to T2 core launchers, which provide a cheap yet nice way to get a bit of extra scan strength on WH closing ships and the like).

You can get ring, sphere, and two-point configurations at strengths > 25% btw.
Scoto Timta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-01-14 20:06:49 UTC
Don't forget about the scan deviation (inaccuracy). So, for example, when you get a sphere, it means 1 probe (the one at the middle of that sphere) is the only probe that could "see" the sig. The radius of the sphere is how far away that the probe thinks the sig is, which is going to be off by some amount that is dependant on your skills, etc. If there was no inaccuracy to the scan, then the sig would be exactly on the edge of the sphere, but that's not the case in practice. It is usually close enough, though, that you can treat it as being right there. Same applies for the ring, double-dot, single-dot hits before 100%.

As stated, the ring means the sig was seen by 2 probes and the ring is at the intersection of the spheres that would have been drawn by those 2 probes.

3 probes seeing it gives 2 dots. Those 2 dots are at the 2 intersection points of the distance from all 3 probes. You can usually eliminate one of the dots because it will be inside the range sphere of 4 or more probes, meaning the correct dot is the other one.

There is some debate about max distance from planets. In my experience, regular sites (ladar, grav, radar, mag) are always within 4 AU of a planet and wormhole within 8.