Jita Park Speakers Corner

Wrong.


Wrong.


Considering I've been advocating moving away from moongoo as an alliance's primary source of income and onto bottom-up financing for a long time, no, you haven't touched squat. In fact, you couldn't be further from the truth.


Gatecamps and instalocks aren't "bad design", they're not even "a problem". I mean, next you'll try to claim that every lowsec system is camped.

Oh and PS: instalocking ships are usually pretty fragile. HTH.


Here's an interesting question for you, since you seem to be all about "making lowsec better": why should anyone go to lowsec?

No you're wrong.


No you're wrong.


Good so you agree with me that's nice.


It's a bad design, even if only person is getting instalocked per year it's still a bad design, keyword is "bad design".

Oh and PS: they are not alone, they are not taking any risk. HTH.


Lowsec should be smallgang pvp land, should give nice income for indy but we should still be able to chase them, should punish people for making big fleets, that's why anyone should go to lowsec.
Do you even solo pvp or only know how to blob/hotdrop a.k.a elite pvp?

I'm telling you : Afk Moon Goo for CMS9, it's happening.

So what would you do to fix it, then, and what would the ramifications be on other parts of EVE?


EVE is all about counters, not just numbers. Think up something, or oh I dunno avoid that gate maybe? vOv


Last I checked, it was a nice place for smallgang pvp, sucked for industry, and doesn't reward big fleets any more than it does anywhere else in the game. So, what exactly is wrong, and what do you propose to fix it? What will the ramifications be on the rest of the eve universe?

Pretty easy, add a scaling % for locktime depending on the numbers of ships at any lowsec gate, people can still camp and warp after but I'll give you more time to do ****.


It's plain dumb, in lowsec you should die because you got outplayed not because people are camping a gate, up the skill-ceiling remove low risk high reward pvp.



It's a nice place for smallgang pvp if you are a pirate because you have tons of targets thanks to fw. You can't really counter pirates, they will disengage if you bring more dudes and just come back after, allow bombs in low sec so dedicated small bombers gangs could annoy/deal with pirates camping gates.
Make pi more profitable in ls, maybe remove p4 prod in hs it's not that difficult anyway to do pi in ls with mwd cloak trick or with a blockade, more people will go to lowsec, they'll be able to scale harder than highsec indys gg.

I can only conclude you have no killboard at all and no experience with any of the topics you take issue with, and must be drunk posting. 1/10 for the gimmicky alt, I guess.

E: This is rich:

You got outplayed homie, they brought more friends.

So your idea of "fixing gatecamps" (which isn't a problem) is to make any fights on lowsec gates suck more, and for the servers to spend even more CPU time on non-essential bull.

Interesting.


Fly ships designed to move around unsupported, or bring a scout. vOv


There are alternatives which work just as well as bombs. I suggest you use them.


PI is an insignificant minority of the term "industry" in EVE, and their exposure to danger is insignificantly small.

Why would they "suck" more ? It'll make 1vsx more fair, make smallgang vs smallgang more strategic and you probably have no idea how fast it is to make a server side division. Bad design = need to go, even if it's not a problem for you.


Doesn't change the fact that it's still a bad design, low skill requirement low risk high reward pvp. vOv


Bombs could punish big fleets in low sec too, do you even read my posts? Sec status change might be a problem tho


Pos change is coming, PI isn't changed, p3-p4 stuff should be ls only, it's a start.
I'm not sure how to help lowsec miners, maybe remove belts and put roids in grav sites, that won't keep pirates from probing them tho.

I'm a few-hours old character and I know more than you about accounts (yes you can have 3 alts per account, check the faq if you don't trust me) so I guess you just bought your account from craigslist.


There is no artificial limitation, just less reward.
Low risk, high reward pvp that's very un-EVE-like, but then again since you bought your account you must be new to this.

Because to make any inroads at all against your "instalock" problem, you would have to make every lock excruciatingly long, which'll have its impact on everything, even "small gang vs small gang".

And again, gatecamps isn't a problem. I've yet to die to a single gatecamp, and I flew to/from the hisec island in solitude multiple times a day for a long, long time. I just flew a ship designed to get around the "problem" of gatecamps. Only bads whine about gatecamps.


Actually, yes, I do. It'll be more than you think.


No, what it doesn't change is the fact that you're complaining about not being able to get away from a gate which is camped, when everyone that's even remotely sensible would take precautions in the form of either using a ship designed to break through those gatecamps (and, incidentally, there's a lot of ships designed for that express purpose) or using a scout.


I'm going to just continue to point out the fact that there are alternatives which work just fine in lowsec, today, to bust up larger gatecamps, and it doesn't involve bombs or "moar numbers". Use them, instead of bitching about gatecamps (and showing us you don't want to adapt).

I have no proof of you using more than one of those character slots.


I don't see how any of your propositions to deal with gate camping result in less reward for anyone.