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Things CCP doesn't talk about

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Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-01-11 15:52:52 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Glathull wrote:
[quote=CCP Eterne]Bottom line is that if CCP isn't talking about it on the forums, it's because a decisions hasn't been made. It's not because the issue is being ignored. And there might possibly be plans that make any discussion moot because we haven't seen how future updates are going to affect the issues being talked about.


That's good and well, but think back how LONG it's been since drones were basically broken. By my count, it's been since roughly Trinity (2007).

Issues like bad drone UI, bad drone AI (damage splitting, not being applied, etc.), T2 drones having the same resist profile as T1 drones, lack of drone damage rigs (besides Sentries), Sentries themselves being broken (do not require nor are affected by racial drone specialization at T2 level, unlike EVERY other drone and weapon system out there), etc., etc., etc. How long has this been going on? A very, very, very, VERY long time. Correct?

So when CCP tells us they're discussing it internally...I don't know about you, but I'd like to hear something more concrete. Because they've had more than enough time to talk about it. Five years? I'd say it's plenty to come up with something. I'm sorry if this sounds offensive, but really drones are and have been in a deplorable state for far too long.


You just got Drone Damage Amps! That should be enough for the next five years ;)
Theresa Lamont
Rogue Fleet
#42 - 2013-01-11 16:25:54 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.


Yeah...I`m sure the Devs often have very pationate debates when discussing issues with the game. I would not be surprised to hear that during their meetings, a lot of Devs experience the blood boiling sensation when arguments and ideas they do not agree with fly accross the table. Some of them probably even feel like throwing objects accross the room when that happens.

Am I wrong CCP Eterne? Tell us (at least) how you feel sometimes during your meetings. And what was it about again?
SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#43 - 2013-01-11 16:30:47 UTC
Theresa Lamont wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.


Yeah...I`m sure the Devs often have very pationate debates when discussing issues with the game. I would not be surprised to hear that during their meetings, a lot of Devs experience the blood boiling sensation when arguments and ideas they do not agree with fly accross the table. Some of them probably even feel like throwing objects accross the room when that happens.

Am I wrong CCP Eterne? Tell us (at least) how you feel sometimes during your meetings. And what was it about again?



Nah, they read through the agenda and then stamp each item with the big, red working as intended stamp and knock off early :)

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2013-01-11 17:37:02 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.

Aside from the fact that sounds exactly like gov speak, you are meaning that you have properly identified the problem in both dev and player minds properly, found a simple easy and wrong fix that got stopped, but was so beautiful it has derailed the serious solution as it is more complex.
Thus you have descended into 2 warring camps that sally forth with interns to do battle to destroy convince the other side of your glorious and correct idea.
Meanwhile the interns are busy forming a union against unfair practices like being used to stop the paper shredder monster by lobbing their bodies into it, and you are having a more difficult time acquiring new ones as EU health and safety has begun to question if you have a butcher shop licence.
During all this no work is being done as the computers were all immediately pressed into using as wall material and the hamsters lack the thumbs needed to code the solution themselves or open the new bags of food.

Sound about right?
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-01-11 17:53:38 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.


Thanks for the reply although this is quite obvious that you discuss balance internally before you release it to the player base :)
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#46 - 2013-01-11 18:21:07 UTC
Glathull wrote:

Drones:
Yet another ton of threads on this topic. Any response from CCP yet?
Tinfoil Hat: CCP is working through the rebalancing of ships before they want to talk about rebalancing drones.

Feel free to add your own ideas about topics that CCP avoids. Have fun thinking up scenarios, and by all means, troll like there's no tomorrow.


A bigger issue I've seen on the missions subforum is that Tracking Disrupters have been broken making Sansha missions impossible with turrent fits.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#47 - 2013-01-11 18:41:36 UTC
Lyndsey Love wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Lyndsey Love wrote:
And I still can't have cybersex in captain's quarters Sad


It's content you can solo! Blink


Solo cybersex is dead Cry

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#48 - 2013-01-11 18:44:19 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.

Aside from the fact that sounds exactly like gov speak, you are meaning that you have properly identified the problem in both dev and player minds properly, found a simple easy and wrong fix that got stopped, but was so beautiful it has derailed the serious solution as it is more complex.

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.

H. L. Mencken

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#49 - 2013-01-11 18:51:28 UTC
... Fight club?

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-01-11 21:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.



Well, it's not the best way to do things than ask players feedback/ideas about ship changes if some missing information is not available.

Want an example? -well, keep 7.5% active repair bonus on two BC Gallente hulls as it stands (horrible) has no sense, even less to keep it on the Brutix Hull.
Now without further information about eventual armor tanking changes, you guys can't expect anything else than negative feedback, right?

Doesn't matter if it's not implemented at the same time, but it matters to know your plans about those changes to have a seemingly constructive discussion because you know, spreadsheets in space Lol

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#51 - 2013-01-11 22:16:21 UTC
Lyndsey Love wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Lyndsey Love wrote:
And I still can't have cybersex in captain's quarters Sad


It's content you can solo! Blink


Solo cybersex is dead Cry

Well, there is hope. After all, you already have the key to the door by now.

Remove standings and insurance.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#52 - 2013-01-11 23:08:59 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.


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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#53 - 2013-01-11 23:14:30 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Dust is for PS3.
PS4 is about to be announced.

/discuss


CCP knows this and is prepared, else could it be that they too know the happenings of the gaming world?

wumbo
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#54 - 2013-01-12 00:50:55 UTC
what's this risk vs reward idea i keep hearing about
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-01-12 00:55:37 UTC
CCP don't talk about fight club
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#56 - 2013-01-12 01:33:26 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
We have discussions about these issues (and more) internally all the time. Our discussions internally have not yet led to information that is in a state finalized enough to share with the public.



Based on what I see from activists with what we call "Freedom of Information Act Requests, or "FOIA", I instantly thought we could petition this information out, while forgetting "where I was" for a moment.

But to imagine you guys releasing a document with everything redacted except the words "Arena", "Re-SP'ed", "P2W", "CQ-sex", and "nullbalance" and the epic speculation that would cause, could make it worth the trouble.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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