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Is 1v1 dead nowadays or is it just to hard to find good fights !?!

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CaptainTr1cky
Dividing by Z3r0
#1 - 2013-01-11 01:46:18 UTC

Every time i sit my ass in a plex i have my mind set to 2 priorities .. 1 getting a fight and 2 if fights don't come atleast i do my faction good and make some money on the side , but every time i see people on short scan on the gate they are either in ships that could be a balanced fight but they end up leaving cause , and i quote ( not actually copy paste since i didint copy it at the time ) " i don't feel like puttin my ship at risk right now " so they leave ..... that or they bring 3-4 ships to challenge me which obviously 90% of the time i got no chance if they are able pilots and bring the right ships .

Now i can understand the concept of ganking a person , u do it i do it we all do it cause its eve .. but lets be honest .. who in his right mind will stay in that plex to get ganked by several ships , u must be dumwhited and not warp of to a safe .

So my question is , if people want a fight and not just simply humiliate ( or try ) they're opponent , then why not try to be a good target , one that will make your enemy think hmm yea that might work lets give it a shot !

No offence to the minmatars i'm sure my amarr colegues do the same but rly .. u guys either bring 20 vs 1 or u bring something that most definitly has the greatest advantage and the enemy has no chance ( like say u have your booster in the system , obv ) U guys are at t3/t4 u make alot of isk and u can't put a rifter/slasher or a thrasher on the line ?

One time i was in a cruiser and 3 dessies showed up at the gate .. naturaly i was polite and told em yes please come in .. they left cause well ... apparently a t1 cruiser was to much for 3 destroyers ....

Few minmatars really do give good fights and i apreciate em for that ... or maybe i'm just not lookin in the right place .


Tell me i'm wrong and call me a noob , thats just how i see it
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#2 - 2013-01-11 01:55:48 UTC
There's still decent 1v1 to be had. Just be prepared to deal with a lot of being outnumbered, boosting nonsense, and scouts tackling for a gang. Remember a) many eve pvpers are cowards, b) many eve pvpers are bad (especially at solo), and c) many eve pvpers aren't very good at evaluating matchups. Combine a) and c) and a lot of people will run away from what could've been a good fight. There's also the fact that once someone has got numbers, they don't tend to hold back on using them. Even if the scout could've soloed a target with ease, they'll still bring everyone in to whore on the killmail.
Reuqh Dew
Anasta.
#3 - 2013-01-11 01:57:31 UTC
Try leaving the Kamela area when you're solo. I rarely hang around there after I switched from minmatar to Amarr, because it's so blobby.
Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-11 02:00:27 UTC
any time I go to a novice plex in OMS or the surrounding area its not hard to get a fight from something...and yeah sometimes you have to take on odds to have some fun...to be honest taking 2-3 t1 frigates against 5+ to try and kill their shiny faction ships before you die can be a ton of fun...I managed to trade a rifter for a firetail the other night in a fun little fight...
CaptainTr1cky
Dividing by Z3r0
#5 - 2013-01-11 02:02:31 UTC
Reuqh Dew wrote:
Try leaving the Kamela area when you're solo. I rarely hang around there after I switched from minmatar to Amarr, because it's so blobby.



If i'm solo i never hang around kamela/kourm/lamaa area because anyone who will try to get u is boosted to hell or has a big fleet ... like one of my corp member once said .. its useless to fight in kourmonen because even if you are close to win a 1v1 fight the minnie runs away with his 8k m/s boosted ship before u can end the fight .



Dan Carter Murray
#6 - 2013-01-11 02:05:53 UTC
CaptainTr1cky wrote:

Every time i sit my ass in a plex i have my mind set to 2 priorities .. 1 getting a fight and 2 if fights don't come atleast i do my faction good and make some money on the side , but every time i see people on short scan on the gate they are either in ships that could be a balanced fight but they end up leaving cause , and i quote ( not actually copy paste since i didint copy it at the time ) " i don't feel like puttin my ship at risk right now " so they leave ..... that or they bring 3-4 ships to challenge me which obviously 90% of the time i got no chance if they are able pilots and bring the right ships .

Now i can understand the concept of ganking a person , u do it i do it we all do it cause its eve .. but lets be honest .. who in his right mind will stay in that plex to get ganked by several ships , u must be dumwhited and not warp of to a safe .

So my question is , if people want a fight and not just simply humiliate ( or try ) they're opponent , then why not try to be a good target , one that will make your enemy think hmm yea that might work lets give it a shot !

No offence to the minmatars i'm sure my amarr colegues do the same but rly .. u guys either bring 20 vs 1 or u bring something that most definitly has the greatest advantage and the enemy has no chance ( like say u have your booster in the system , obv ) U guys are at t3/t4 u make alot of isk and u can't put a rifter/slasher or a thrasher on the line ?

One time i was in a cruiser and 3 dessies showed up at the gate .. naturaly i was polite and told em yes please come in .. they left cause well ... apparently a t1 cruiser was to much for 3 destroyers ....

Few minmatars really do give good fights and i apreciate em for that ... or maybe i'm just not lookin in the right place .


Tell me i'm wrong and call me a noob , thats just how i see it


nobody ever said that minmatar enjoyed pvp. the vast majority of them don't.

you're probably running into U'K/D'K/IO/LNA/EM. 99% of the people in their alliances don't like pvp at all or it scares them.

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CaptainTr1cky
Dividing by Z3r0
#7 - 2013-01-11 02:08:37 UTC
Milton Middleson wrote:
There's still decent 1v1 to be had. Just be prepared to deal with a lot of being outnumbered, boosting nonsense, and scouts tackling for a gang. Remember a) many eve pvpers are cowards, b) many eve pvpers are bad (especially at solo), and c) many eve pvpers aren't very good at evaluating matchups. Combine a) and c) and a lot of people will run away from what could've been a good fight. There's also the fact that once someone has got numbers, they don't tend to hold back on using them. Even if the scout could've soloed a target with ease, they'll still bring everyone in to ***** on the killmail.



while i can agree with all that u said .. and refering to the kill mail whore , me and my corp do the same thing cause its only natural when u get a fleet going everyone should get on the fun ...

but i'm talkin more about the solo roamers or the 3-4 man gangs , while i don't mind takin 2v1 or even 3vs1's if i know i stand some chance but ... griffin maulus an God knows what vs somethin that can't handle that is just .. overkill and stupid

Tbh i don't rly know what i want to get out of makin this thread ... i just felt like i needed to express myself on the situation that , guys , if i have the option of running away from a gang i know i can't face nor have a chance .. then why bother , go reship give me a reason to stay then we can fight !!
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-01-11 02:27:45 UTC
Just keep your chin up man...

... so I can land a shot on it

TL;DR change your gameplan
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-11 03:46:37 UTC  |  Edited by: SeaSaw
Good CaptainTr1cky;

I have to agree, I run from most fights too. Someone in a Daredevil in a Novice plex should expect my Merlin to run--I don't know why they bother. Then there are the OGB hookbill guys who move so fast it is obvious. If you really want solo fights in FW you should wander around alone in a t1 ship and try not to make the boosts too obvious.

Then again I cheat some too--I know what ships I can jam pretty easily (executioner, condor, rifter etc)--and so I wont run right away, since I can jam and dash later.

Having said that, I don't think I have killed anybody in a month--but I have had alot of fights.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#10 - 2013-01-11 05:44:01 UTC
SeaSaw wrote:
Good CaptainTr1cky;

I have to agree, I run from most fights too. Someone in a Daredevil in a Novice plex should expect my Merlin to run--I don't know why they bother. Then there are the OGB hookbill guys who move so fast it is obvious. If you really want solo fights in FW you should wander around alone in a t1 ship and try not to make the boosts too obvious.

Then again I cheat some too--I know what ships I can jam pretty easily (executioner, condor, rifter etc)--and so I wont run right away, since I can jam and dash later.

Having said that, I don't think I have killed anybody in a month--but I have had alot of fights.

your humble servent
SeaSaw


LOL - Those are not boosted Hookbills dude - Just gotta know how to fit em.


Iogrim
Matterhorn.
#11 - 2013-01-11 09:07:00 UTC
It is possible to get solo fights (check my killboard), but you have to work for them. I averaged 1 kill per hour of looking for fights.

I only fought vs. Minmatar militia - I guess for every person that would engage there are 3+ who are retards. Like Sabre running away from my Atron, or faction frig waiting for a friend before engaging my solo T1 frig, or Minmatar warping in 2 destroyers, T1 frigate and a Falcon after I engaged a wolf (killed wolf anyway ;)).

Staying in plex and waiting for someone else to come in didn't work for me, even in populated systems.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#12 - 2013-01-11 09:51:53 UTC
It's been a while since I roamed solo due to general lack of playtime, but I always used to find that getting out of the middle of the warzone is the best way. If you head out to backwater areas it'll take you longer to find fights, but when you do find them they're less likely to be total blobs.

Also, if you're serious about 1v1s you will definitely need a falcon alt, a booster alt and a guardian alt. This wisdom I have learned in my wanderings :)
Iogrim
Matterhorn.
#13 - 2013-01-11 09:55:22 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Also, if you're serious about 1v1s you will definitely need a falcon alt, a booster alt and a guardian alt. This wisdom I have learned in my wanderings :)


Nonsense. At least on frigate level.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#14 - 2013-01-11 10:09:55 UTC
Iogrim wrote:
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Also, if you're serious about 1v1s you will definitely need a falcon alt, a booster alt and a guardian alt. This wisdom I have learned in my wanderings :)


Nonsense. At least on frigate level.


Dammit, yer onto my game! <_< >_>
jjohnpaul xvii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-01-11 10:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: jjohnpaul xvii
If i had a velator and a unit of tritanium for every time one of you **bleeping** cry babies came on here whining ''i cant find PvP in FW'' or ''I sat in a plex in a ship and other FW'ers didnt immediately bring ships i could easily kill and warp them in to me while i dictate range and starting terms'' i would be Bill Gates space rich.

There are SO many fights to be had all over the place in FW - but a frighteningly increasing amount of you people are too lazy or too stupid (or both) to figure out how to get them despite people literally S-P-E-L-L-I-N-G it out for you time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time. You are not noobs by any definition hence the wrath here.


You should quit now because you are horrible at this game. Your ''spoon feed me'' attitude is gonna dumb this game down to oblivion and ruin it for any one with more than 0.2% of a brain cell rattling around in their heads. CCP should start doing an entrance exam before you are allowed to subscribe where anyone incapable of spelling their own name and wiping their own Harris cant play. I genuinely wonder sometimes how you manage to turn the computer on without help.

If you want arranged 1v1s go and join RvB, or actively seek out The Tuskers, but my main advice is that you do yourselves a massive favour and go and play Dust. You will get so much more out of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

- Rant Ends -
Iogrim
Matterhorn.
#16 - 2013-01-11 11:10:35 UTC
jjohnpaul xvii wrote:
CCP should start doing an entrance exam before you are allowed to subscribe where anyone incapable of spelling their own name and wiping their own butt cant play. I


Don't do that! We would lose all Minmatar militia this way!
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#17 - 2013-01-11 11:23:20 UTC
Iogrim wrote:
jjohnpaul xvii wrote:
CCP should start doing an entrance exam before you are allowed to subscribe where anyone incapable of spelling their own name and wiping their own butt cant play. I


Don't do that! We would lose all Minmatar militia this way!


To be fair, my name is pretty challenging to spell right.
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#18 - 2013-01-11 12:59:08 UTC
The problem with find 1 vs. 1 is that you never know if the one who is sitting in the plex is really just one alone.
In many cases the 1 in the plex is either in an über-pimped ship like Faction-Web Daredevil. In other cases the 1 in the plex is boosted to hell in addition to his crazy implants. Or all three together. For this reason engaging one target sitting in a plex is just suicidal behaviour if you do it really solo. Therefore the usual way is to at least call one or two friends just to be one the "safe" side. Since everyone wants to win at the end this behaviour is normal. There is no "fair" fight in EVE so people are adaptiing to this fact.
jjohnpaul xvii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-11 13:02:58 UTC
Meditril wrote:
There is no "fair" fight in EVE


QFT - And long it may it stay so.

WOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Iogrim
Matterhorn.
#20 - 2013-01-11 13:06:13 UTC
Meditril wrote:
The problem with find 1 vs. 1 is that you never know if the one who is sitting in the plex is really just one alone.
In many cases the 1 in the plex is either in an über-pimped ship like Faction-Web Daredevil. In other cases the 1 in the plex is boosted to hell in addition to his crazy implants. Or all three together. For this reason engaging one target sitting in a plex is just suicidal behaviour if you do it really solo. Therefore the usual way is to at least call one or two friends just to be one the "safe" side. Since everyone wants to win at the end this behaviour is normal. There is no "fair" fight in EVE so people are adaptiing to this fact.


Do you feed yourself these excuses every time you form 5+ gang to fight one T1 frigate?

How to enjoy solo PVP:
1) undock
2) go look for targets
3) don't listen to faggots who say there is no solo pvp
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