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Well when we are out of beta there better not be because wats the point of having a dedicated group of mercs who wanna be the best yet cant get there faster than anyone else, and atleast for the time being raise it substantially it took me 30mins to hit that cap aghhh'. On the other hand the passive training scheme like in eve is something very new for consoles :)

you guys made this pointless announcement, but the server does not even work..... and i was curious as to if our free SP from duality is going to be moved over to sisi.

Missiles impossible as attack weapons due to laser defense?

If missiles are targets -- then armed ships should be targets even sooner.

I think we should stick with the original suggestion that disputed worlds rely on EVE ships to protect them from space borne attacks. Once CCP has basically said regional planetary politics have locked planetary defenses and militia out of the picture it should apply to everything. Stable unified planetary government does not exist and most frontier worlds cannot afford planetary defenses or trust them not to shoot down shuttles and shipping of rival factions (harming overall planetary growth).


I think Fozzie should just come out and say "I don't like missiles & won't have them in my game. Missiles are not FPS and do not market well in MMO IMHO" (LOL) At least that would be an out in the open position like those RL military extremist who feel their weapon system will supplant all other weapons systems in the future. (No tanks vs all tanks and submarines vs surface aircraft carriers is fun enough but the Marine Infantry guys who expect anti-matter infantry rifle and AI UAV to supplant all other weapons are a scream.)

Why would planets have anti-missiles defense that ships do not have? CCP has no anti-missile phalanx option in space where its a perfect environment (vacuum = no atmospheric irregularities to throw off shots). 7 km/sec missiles are not out maneuvering 300000Km/sec laser beams after firing.

I can see making the guided missiles consume double volume to hold more decoys and countermeasures.

I can also see making the rockets split out as 100s of fairly dumb MIRV arriving from multiple directions over large area...making individual targeting impractical due duty cycles.

Speedwise keep in mind that projectiles and hybrid ammo is subject to the same atmospheric issues as missiles.
Realistic RL proposals for space bombardment at over Mach 15-25 or lasers usually involve firing several sacrificial lead projectiles or missiles or charged beams to create a short lived vacuum tunnel through most the atmosphere - through which subsequent projectiles, missiles or lasers are fired for effect.

Plus the leading tip of the cheapest hypersonic missiles will probably always be basically the same as slugs used as projectile or hybrid ammo...the part that makes it a missile is made "safe" behind the bow wave of that simpler tip. But even a slight advance over RL high end Mach 7-8 missiles would be adequate.

And lasers...well ignoring that EVE has no anti-missile lasers when the simplest physics say that would be ideal in space even for fastest missiles of 7km/sec (versus light speed 300000km/sec)

Lasers fire for effect are also slowed by atmospheric complications even if only by a few seconds...the weaponized beam is fired based on feedback from a target beam that measures variations in air refraction that bend and diffuse laser path. Further while atmosphere slows a missile and reduces the effectiveness of pure maneuver (speed obviously not being the reason anti-missile lasers are not used in space) -- atmosphere adds a number countermeasures not available in space. Ionization masking and blurring of real missile from decoy warheads being one in real life use since the 1970s. Mini-chaff and flare charges can be fired ahead a short distance to disperse light absorbing clouds. Short lived active decoys. Persistent ionized charges (ball lightning) . And number of other effects can mislead, deflect, or ameliorate planetary defense.

Would there be any way that a filter could be placed on the guests tab in the station the Dust players show up in? Or possibly creating a separate infantry tab? It's hard to find the 1 or 2 players I'm trying to trade with amongst the 150+ Dust players.

My feedback is this.. Dust is a terrible waste of time.. It will bomb.. hopefully it wont bring down EVE with it. If I wanted to play a first person shooter I would play Black Ops 2.

Should have invested that time spent on this flop into EVE.

o/ again FoxFour

I submitted the petition as requested and I must say I'm extremely disappointed that I received a response that doesn't even come close to addressing the issue we've discussed here.

:(

o/
Celly

So a few feedback items that I would like to share.

First, I understand DUST is a F2P game and CCP has to make money from sellilng AUR. With that said:

1. I do not really like the idea of DUST players having to pay for UVTs in order to chat with the EvE Corps. This could eventually cause EvE Corps to want to have DUST players in their Corps, because DUST players may be unwilling or unable to purchase AUR for UVTs or they may want to spend their AUR on more meaning items in the market. Being able to talk with your guild/corp is a staple of every MMO regardless of their business models.

2. Although I know that it is being worked on, the issue of Corp mail not being sent to DUST players should have been implemented before the merger with TQ.

3. I understand the whole FW thing, but since DUST is still in beta, this requirement should be disabled until a later date. Not all corps can just drop into FW, we have Alliances we have to think about as well.

4. The ability to have voice comms with mercs from within the Corp channel in EvE, should have been fixed prior to the merger.

5. Corporate systems need to be much more fleshed out than they are right now. In my Corp, we have found that we can not give individual permissions to DUST players. IE. if I want Merc X to be able to accept merc applications for recruitment, I can not just assign a player with the ability to accept applications within the Corp. I have to make that person a full blown Director, this is for every Merc that has any responsibility within the Corp. As with EvE, this has the potential of being an issue for anyone who wants to steal from the Corp, although DUST players can not currently have access to any of the EvE Corp monies or hangers, if this changes, then the potential for corp theft exists, unless individual permissions can be given.

6. EvE CEOs are at a disadvantage compared to DUST CEOs. In EvE, CEOs have to train corporate skills on a "time" basis to raise the membership cap of the corp. In DUST all CEOs have to do is spend SP. This potentially gives DUST CEOs an advantage over EvE CEOs in the recruitment of mercs. In fact, in my corp we ran into this issue in a similar way. We lost mercs who were part of the corp on the SiSi, we had 80+ mercs before the merger, but since the CEO had not increased his corporate skill we were capped at 40 members and those mercs who could not get in joined Merc corps instead.

I understand that DUST is still in beta and many unannounced changes are coming down the pipe, but not knowing what features are being worked on or what features were never planned, this is my short feedback about these last few days of the merger.

Can you please file a bug report including as much information as possible including any steps to reproduce this. It would help greatly. :)

9 dcs on Saturday and 12 on Sunday. I no longer have any confidence in running missions.

I still have the same equipment and ISP that has served me well, better, in fact than previous months. where I was often in extended-stay hotels.

Inventories don't seem to open and close properly.

Either my fingers or my mouse or the game has developed a stutter on clicking. I get notification that I can't do something I did not try to do fairly frequently. The wrong item gets selected, etc.

The HQ corp hangars for the corp I just left have disappeared to all the players still in the corp.

The sluggishness and server lag reminds me of games I used to play and left because they were unplayable.

About 20% of the time that I r-click > jump when at a gate, the game client / server does not respond and I need to re-initiate the command.

I can't say if this is a local or server-side thing, but it is damn annoying, especially when traveling with a fleet.