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I tried to join the swedish channel named "svenska" joining "svenska" from dust gets you into another channel by that name in dust only.

Inviting from EVE gets you a "you are not permitted to join this channel" message in dust.

However, joining "swedish" in dust, gets you into the channel named "svenska" in EVE. So a translation thing.

Also trying to invite from EVE, channels like EVE-Radio does not show up on the invite list, since EVE-Radio also is some typ of "special" channel in EVE.

/c

o/ FoxFour

I can get you the information and the output of DX diag from my system, however it won't fit into the game's submission form, so here's the relevant part and I'll submit a bug with system name and stuff in game.

I hope this helps
o/
Celly

Edit: removed system information, used web based petition and was able to submit the info/attachment.

So for some reason whenever i join an instant action game no matter how well i do i only get 50xp but a couple if hrs ago i was getting well above 5000 xp a match wats happened?

I too thought that I could get to do some orbital bombardment, but no, I am not in FW. That feels not so good as game developers advertise big things years before release and when it is finally released nothing happens, because the FPS part is only on PS3. Then after some more time, again nothing happens, because the Eve part is on the test server. Then later nothing happens, because it is only in FW.

So far what I have got out of Dust 514 is that first I noticed Dust players can join Eve chat. Now I actually saw one Dust player on Eve chat. That is pretty much it. Then I went back to mining some more ore.

Small improvements over time is good - though even there we got for example round aiming sights to replace the old square ones. Really? What was wrong with the square ones? Were they too square? I think there was more urgent things to improve than the sights, and I even liked the square ones more, so it wasn't even an improvement.

and who's fault is that? Not CCP's for your lack of research. Hell I have only been playing EVE now for almost 2 months and I know more about DUST 514 and EVE than most season vets because of one of the many things people fail to do......research. Try it some time.

*** Sorry i'm french and I've not read the text I posted a second time ... So

Dust players and Eve Players can chat via text in communication channels created by both Eve Online players and Dust 514 players even in Corporation Communication Channel (Corp).
Dust players and Eve Players can have a Eve Voice/PS Voice conversation via Microphone and headphone in communication channels created by both Eve Online players and Dust 514 players.

BUT

Dust players and Eve Players cannot have a Eve Voice/PS Voice conversation via Microphone and headphone in Corporation Communication Channels (Corp Chan), even if Eve online client is perfectly set and Dust client have a TVU.

This is more of a feedback thing, not a bug report.

I preface this with; of course this is only day one, of a long implementation and deployment cycle, but to my mind these are fairly important observations.

1 - The Dust link is disconnected-feeling and the games are only superficially linked. This is pretty unfortunate at this stage, because excitement has transiitoned into disappointment and who-caresitude within 12 hours.

Having invited dust guys in to BUGRY, we were trying to communicate. EVE guys are on keyboard, Dust guys on On-screen keyboards. It makes chat channels a terrible place. So we get onto comms (TS3) and say hi. much better. We try to get things organised, and this is where it falls apart and should be fixed ASAP.

We want to employ the dust guys to shoot up Amarr planets in some fashion. because we can't actually write contracts that i am aware of, it is impossible to actually direct a war effort in FW to any advantage. The Merc corps in, eg, Amo - they don't give a crap about EVE stuff. We don't know them from a box of hammers, nor do I want to - this is the Militia. We have our own objectives, but we cannot get them pushed through, as it is random matchplay - or merc corps accept contracts on planets...just because they...love us? Or what?

So. Our Dust guys in BUGRY find it impossible to direct their efforts toward a Militia or Corp goal. The non-BUGRY Dust guys cannot be talked to (OSK's suck, and Amo Local is busy and public...like wiring the Reichsmarshall your intentions of D-Day a month early). So, i gave up on that immediately.

So. here I am, thinking - we'll follow our corpies around in-game and orbital bombard their enemies. Except - screw that. The guys have no control over where they go. They can end up in Caldari space, shooting random crap up. We could burn 20 jumps through hostile pirate-infested space, with lame orbital bombardment ammo in our hold.

Or a beacon can open up in our system - and we don't have the ammo. Who's making it? If wou are deep in enemy territory you can't dock to buy ammo. if it exists. Which it doesn't. I'm not going 8 jumps to hek to buy crap ammo for shooting planets which leaves me totally vulnerable to being roflstomped by a Daredevil with Loki and Legion boosts installed permanently in a POS nearby who gets to warp in on top of the beacon and teabag me while I reload my stupid ammo back to shooty-spaceships ammo.

So. No one is going around lowsec shooting stuff for the Dusties. Because it blows goat peen - impossible to buy the ammo. Oh an don't crap on about ëve market is automagically going to fix that". There's NO demand. Supply is anemic - 25 hybrid on sale in hek? U joking?

No one is going to test this out because you can't tell where, when, if or what the crap is going to happen with beacons for bombardment. And if it does happen, no way of getting there. With ammo you don't have, can't be stuffed making for a beta test, and half the time can't dock to buy anyway.

Then - why bother? You can't talk with the Dust guys efficiently, so they all end up with an EVE trial account and a computer and TS3, just to get talking - and thats only the guys in your corp. Most are in the NPC merc corps, who we can't write contracts to! So - they don't know anyone from a bar of soap, and I can't care.

This sounds whiny - but it is a frustrating, ridiculously bad way of testing anything.

CCP, you want from the get-go (ie; this week) for a culture to grow between Dust and EVE players where communication is easy, efficient, possible, and dynamic. You want Dust guys to actually need to talk, even on a corp-corp basis, with EVE players and corps, to get stuff happening.

There is currently ZERO point having dust guys in your corp, because its two separate games, running in paralllel, and frustrating everyone who isn't just turning up for a Call Of Duty In Space With Bunnies Crap shooter.

If corps and even Dust players themselves, cannot direct their efforts, right now or very, very soon, no one in Militia will give a crap, and guess what? Dust players will be sold on this idea of having EVE players dropping death rays. But they never come.

Tangentially - why the hell can we makee infantry gear? We can't sell it to Dust guys. What a joke. One of my guys wants to make infantry gear with his EVE toon, for his Dust toon. Poor darling can't be dissuaded. But he's being led up the creek because of the divorcement between EVE and Dust. So, luls, waste of time.

Solutions?

For a start, seed the ******* ammo EVERYWHERE in lowsec. Like, NOW. The market won't bother reallocating it for ***** nor giggles because no one is using it because they CANNOT use it right now. Maybe phase this out in a while. But, seriously.

Maybe we can dump LP's in a hostile hub. or pay TLF ISK (hey an ISk sink!) to write contracts to attack certain systems, or pay bounties to defend systems, and the magic computer then directs Dust matchplay towards those systems, as if my democracy. This would allow Militia to push fights where they want them, which would mean it might - miraculously and unbelievably - be worth deploying cloaky Coercers in certain systems, to actually turn up and do a bombardment.

Without this...what a collossal fuckup and waste of time.

I have been looking everywhere, and I have found some forum posts but nothing official. If I missed something I appologise.

We want to start adding our bunnies to our eve corp, but we require a api key to do so to work within our ecm system. I have seen information saying that dust uses a crest api system but I cant find anything anywhere about where someone can get there crest api from. Is this something that is not implimented yet, or am i missing something, or does dust not have a api system at all ?

I appologise for wasting your time on something like this, but thanks for the work on the dust system and look forward to shooting them at some time soon.

Oh and also, is there a timeframe in ccp's mind to when dust will effect fw sov, or is it too early to have a rough idea ? Im sure everyone is working hard at bugfixes now anyhow...

Two issues for me since DUST hit Tranquility, and I can't be sure if either or both are directly related to the patch.

*First, Eve voice is behaving badly (again). Since the patch, no matter what we do, about 15-20% of our group cannot make intelligible audio commentary within the game. For my part, I run the echo test, everything sounds fine, then I check my audio in the game, and it's poo--breaking up and rendering my contributions useless. Is there a list being kept somewhere of dev-acknowledged "known issues"? (Would love to know how serious I need to be about making contingency plans for a Fleet PvP Basics class I have scheduled for the 26th. Also, I badly miss being able to roam effectively.)


Always my best,

Boig

EDIT: Rorqual is glitched again. When people create jump clones and jump to the newly created clones as part of the process, the clones are still showing in the bay as "phantoms". Last time, after days of doing everything from clearing cache to repackaging and refitting, it suddenly worked again. As of yesterday? Back to the same problem. Remarkably tough to guide new players through the process if I can't tell if they're following directions correctly or not.

New glitch as of 16 January: When someone jumps to their clone, rather than appearing far out in space, the clones appear at zero of the rorqual. When was THAT change put through and notification given? Rapidly running out of ways I can contribute while I wait for functional audio again, CCP. Not happy.

All my issues are dust 514 side, we re-awoken an ancient evil on the servers. Shudders, I dare not say its name but it starts with D. it has devoured many a capital ship in the past that thought they where safe.