EVE General Discussion

Dammit...Still it is much larger than like a 105mm or 128mm. It is a big ass gun.

But 1.4 meters is the shells diameter. Judging from the shells icon, they are quite a bit longer than wide, so you'd easily be standing up inside it.

Anyway - I don't think it's a bad move - I assume if dust sticks around, the people mostly doing the orbital bombardments in the long run will be alts of dust players. I don't think the typical F2P console FPS player has the attention span to train for a BS.

Whats the big deal about shot range differences in space vs planets, or the size of the guns being used (Sidenote, small makes the most sense, we are after all helping the merc's seize battlefield objectives, not removing the entire battlefield and a 10km radius around that as well)

All that matters is we can make the sky rain fire. Into a completely seperate game.

If you're leaving scorch marks, you need a bigger gun.

My Cormorant will be most famously flown directly into temporate planets' atmospheres, where it will fragment and strike three or four Dust troops securing key spawn points on the map. Where the Cormorant roams, some guys on that one map that one time remember. kinda

I'm looking forward, tbh, well past when OB is fully integrated, to the part where we'll be able to deploy fighters, fighter-bombers, and drones from our ships to provide air support for DUST players. Or even further beyond that, when smaller ships will actually be able to break orbit to engage ground forces. The one thing that confuses me is the effect of range - a small gun (say a TII neutron, for example, or even TII rails for that matter) can't usually "hit" beyond about 15km max, depending on your ammo. Maybe it's just a different ammo, I dunno, but for a round to break atmosphere (or even a laser, which would be affected by Rayleigh scattering just like any other light ray, even if only a little) it needs to get past the point where it isn't going to burn up, or be slowed down so much by friction that it will no longer have any effect.

Still, I do understand how small guns could be used this way, but wouldn't it be more fun if you could hover in the skies in a squad of Rifters and pound the ground with arty and missiles while someone else's fighter squadron defended your ships from anti-aircraft defences and ground-launched fighters, or just assisted with the bombing? Or, if you had your frigs and fighters in the sky while the other side had their frigs and fighters in the sky simultaneously.... imagine what the light show would look like from the ground? Trails of missiles and high-velocity rounds streaking back and forth while fighters and bombers deployed by carriers in orbit swarmed the scene, as chunks of hull plating and other debris rained from the sky to fall on the battlefield below, adding an additional potential hazard to DUST troops?

Hi,

I might want to try this, but would like to know a bit more first.
1. So they give the advice to bring a destroyer. I'd hate to travel through FW space without a cloak. If I use a stealth bomber with a few guns will that still be usefull or is that a waste of effort?
2. Should I bring different types of guns so I can use different ammo and be more effective at different requests for support? Is it worth refitting guns or can i just as well fit each type of guns and activate the most effective gun first?
3. Apparantly I need to be in FW. I have standings to join whatever faction. Never done that, but I can just join a militia, shoot some targets, leave the militia, fly to a station belonging to the other faction, enlist and fly back to shoot at the other side?
edit: 4. should I use blasters/autocannons or rails/artillery

Thanks for any answers I can get.

Give me destruction like this with my ibis orbital bombardment and I'll burn the Galaxy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYPSg-Ab7Dc

Lets say that a pilot is shooting at a planet with a thrasher with 250mm artillery fit. You're all having a whinge about these pussy little frigate guns but you aren't shooting at ships- you're shooting at people. The old naval guns mounted on drednaughts during the second world war were 250mm caliber- they fired shells in excess of 220kg. That's about 500 pounds if you are living in one of those countries that's still using funny measurement systems poorly conceived at the dawn of the science.

500 pounds of explosive slamming into the ground near you at terminal velocity- it's going to do a great deal of damage.

Scale that up to a battleship projectile- 1200mm and you're going to turn the entire DUST battlefield into a glass sheet.....every time you fire. Use a Dreadnaught which fires 3500mm shells and you'll blow a hole in the planet big enough to fly an Avatar through.



Shell gets caught in the planet's gravity well. Hits the atmosphere, gravity does the rest. Something like that is what they'll go with, I assume.

ISD TYPE40, I think what they are trying to say is that they WANT to be able to decimate entire square kilometers with the ships they trained years to fly.

But then again, that would be a major atrocity like setting off a nuke. As much as the factions hate each other, I do not think they would stoop that low. Maybe out in null sec..... different story.

Still, blowing holes in entire landmasses and permanently changing the appearence of entire districts has a certain "cool" factor that would be worth looking forward to in that year plus long skill que.