Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I support a cyno jamming ship of some sort. It should block cyno's on grid or at an extended range (250km for instance) and should be fairly tanky. It should not have much dps or additional support capability. A new t2 BC would be fine but I would also support a new HIC infini point script/module.

A Faction fit Arazu has a 72 km pt before Warfare Link Bonuses. And links only push it out to 90ish.... Frankly, I think having someone decloak an arazu, pt from 70ish km's, bridge in the backup, and gank your anti-cyno ship is exactly the type of danger it should have to face... and I think that's a pretty good reason to limit the range to 50-60 km's. At the same time, logistics reps have a 72 km range.... which is the only reason I thought pushing it out to 80ish is a good idea...

From a pragmatic use scenario... when an opponent cyno's onto field, you want them beyond rep range, but closer than warp range.... this basically means there will be two separate fleets, and allows you to finish one off before engaging the other, etc...




I'm against the scripted module.... I think that creates too much abuse and problems.... you either prevent the cyno, or you deal with the bridge by blowing up the cyno ship!
Also, need to add a fifth caveat:

5.) The module cannot be activated while inside a POS shield!!! And your ship is "prevented" from entering a POS force field while the cyno disruption field is active.

Titan bridging is one aspect, though I personally thought of the cyno jammer as being in a sort of seige mode. Same movement restrictions, so it anchors your gang to it, if they want to keep the field up. 2 minute cycle time gives an enemy fleet that bridged in time to catch the jamming ship, but because they are offgrid the rest can get away. It also gives most sub cap gangs the ability to completely avoid capital escalation, like a triage jumping in an turning a fight instantly. In capital fights, it gives you a slight advantage, giving you just a few more moments until the enemy caps get on field.

It provides protection from a far superior force coming in near instantly, or any size force coming in instantly. The hotdropper can still bring his friends, but he has to bring them in off the grid, then warp in. Much like an interdictor still allows you to warp, but you have to go a certain distance away before you can resume normal activity.

Edit: Also, how are carebears going to exploit this other than gaining a few precious seconds before they are mercilessly slaughtered?

mmm i like that, this by itself could be the counter to "abusive" cyno, i suggest the timer being adapted to the ship lighting it up, like a frig need 5s, a cruiser 10, a bc 15 etc...

of course, covert cyno remain untouched, and recon are not requiring this warmup,in completion to their already reduced cyno cycle.

timing to be fine tuned for balancing purposes indeed

I'm sorry, all I read was "Im space poor with an affinity for big gangs of small ships that hug gates looking for easy kills, but I don't like getting killed just as easily by bigger gangs than I can field! Fix it CCP!"

why not?

if you use it to bring an overwhelming force to kill 5 BC (wich is lame imao) what trouble could you encounter that you couldn't deal with? you already have an overwelming force on the field anyway, plus by that time, the cyno is still active, so nothing prevent you to escalate in case of trouble.

actually, half of the titans are just pos modules for bridging anyway

actually the bridge mechanic is flawed because unless you screw up when bridging, the titan is at no risk at all.

all the other combat assets that involve in a fight in eve are put at risk, but the titans (and black ops), ALL of them.

this is by design, don't fly what you can't afford to loose, this shall apply to titans too, as long as they take ANY part in combat situation.

and bridging a fleet to fight shall not be an exception.

we can of course argue about when and how the titan is brought, but imao, it shall end up on the field.

or CCP can just introduce a "bridge" POS module that will be usuable in low sec and can lock on regular cyno, judging by the use made of some titans, the result will be the same anyway....

Says the forum alt......

So your saying that we just travel round ganking others and dont want to fight a supior fleet your wrong we want decent fights with people putting effort in not lazy cowards that will only jump in hot drop style because they wont lose anything

+1 but i suggest something like this :

Pirate "Silencer"
Battleship basing on the Scorpion hull.
BPC found in magnetometric site ( ship and jamming generator ) - in all regions.

Main ability - mount a jamming field Generator - highslot module.

First the BS:
As a pirate version of BS it will receive bonuses from multi race BS skills ( 4 race bs - just a sugestion ):
- 30KM of jamming field per level / additional XX unit(s) of Cap consumed per level ( 800GJ cap boosters is a must! ... or dedicated ships with a cap transfer )
- 10% of cargo hold per level
- 10% reduction in fuel consumption per level.
- 10% to shield boost per level
- 5% of signature reduction per level
- 99.99% reduction in covert ops cloaking device ???

Slot layout:
( no offensive capabilites, but good defense options)
3 high slots
7 med slots
5 low slots
No drone bay , but big cargo.


Now the main toy : Jamming Field Generator

Base range of the field 75KM
- you are unable to open a cyno within a field , if a jamming fields open after cyno - cyno becomes unavalaible.
- you are unable to probe effectively ships in a field , but at the same time this field can be scanned using the ship scaner (signature) - while warping - you land on the edge of the field. ( but you can frely warp to peson, wreck, or bookmark in the field)
- increase singnature by 50%
- reduces speed by 50% ( but ship can still fly )
- gives aggro

If a ship fly in a pos shiled while Jamming field is active - module is burned!)

At lvl 5 BS you can have 75KM + 5x30km = 225km of cyno jamming - so you are still be targetable, and in range of long range guns, and missiles.