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Do you know much freighters cost? The moment it undocks it is worth ganking, even it's completely empty.

These captains you speak of also should be flying with capable escort if they're venturing out during a wardec or into other unsafe areas.

You also seem to be erroneously convinced that being able to fit a token tank will save a freighter whose aggressor(s) is bent on killing it. If anything, it'll just prolong the inevitable. Besides, if you give freighters slots to fill, how much you wanna bet that the vast majority of carebears out there (including ones +1'ing the OP's ideas) will just toss cargo expanders in there.... ironically reducing their tank further.

Sure, but suicide ganking one? Doubt it.

Wasnt there a mass buff in a previous expansion that upped all capital health by 400% except the freighters?
Along with increasing damage and all.
I do beleive that it should be if you are at the freighter you can have a chance of living, but as far as I watch see and bump, that doesnt exist.
The align time is the biggest factor in this as as the bumpers are free to go after you in this time.
The tank just alters the entry bar, from 300 mil perfect and thus 1.5 bil gank target to say 500 mil and 2.5 bil gank target.
Useful but if they gank one target they can kill 4+ without caring for the drop.
So no tanking wont help unless you do something that gives absolute protection like a target breaker or a buff to Concord
Actually one midslot target breaker would fix this easily.
Especially if it worked passively

Because freighters are not supposed to fit modules, were never meant to fit modules and were never meant to have any "fitting options" at all whatsoever, that's why.

As far as help, they can help themselves. It's time for CCP to stop coddling bad players who put their life's worth in a single freighter and, without even double-wrapping it, fly it AFK to Jita.

Stop demanding that CCP isolates you from other players and, for once, learn concepts like "double-wrapping" and "not going AFK"



This is nonsense and you know it. The freighter pilot has the choice to double-wrap and what to fly in a given haul. The fact that you want to do everything in EVE without risk, without thought and with maximum convenience in mind is representative of the problems with the entitled hisec playerbase.

True, but who does that anymore in our post-Retribution age?

I'd say barring some exploitable bug or some incredibly involved looting technique that opportunistic suicide ganks of freighters are truly a thing of a past. If anything, the traditional freighter suiganks will move to backwater pipes against specific targets who are known to reliably haul loads of high value, greatly reducing the issues introduced by having the looting freighter becoming suspect. Even that is involved-enough process of planning and staging that most groups won't bother.

Heh, which I guess means freighters have a new tanking method... the :effort: tank.

But, as for the freighters who die by leroying into lowsec or whose captains decide that solo spaceroad trucking during a wardec is a fine idea. These spacecaptains are making a choice to go it alone, at most with a woefully inadequate webbing alt in tow, in a ship that's designed purely to haul large volumes of stuff, not to haul stuff and fight in combat.

When the freighters kept getting sunk in WW2 while crossing the atlantic, was the solution to give them the heavy armor found on battleships? No, the solution was to make it someone's job to protect them.

Yeah, that's another thing. Hisec freighter ganking is incredibly rare these days since CCP decided that hisec hauling should be risk-free in Retribution.

These guys are demanding the final nail in that coffin.

and Why for Gad sake you want to kill things in High sec .. go show your incredible Skill in pvp In NULL sec there is Freighter and JF too in 0.0 ...


oh wait ...

"abloobloobloo people are killing me in hisec, in the cold and harsh game eve online"

as far as a serious answer, it's because hisec players make a delightful squeal when you pop them, and they drop the best loot

So show me the suicide gank killmails of empty Freighters.

If they're actually worth ganking empty, empty ones should be getting ganked constantly.