EVE General Discussion

Null sec is to safe.

Nullbear rating alone in empty null system 20 jumps away from some hostile activity.
Somone wrote in intel chanel, looks like hostile moving to our dead end zone .
Nullbear: Yawn, still 20min left before i need warp to POS.

How does that make nullsec safe?

the fact that there's 0 chance of any one even being on grid with you if you're paying the slightest bit of attention to local and intel

I watched a video of a smartbomb attack that opened my eyes... made me decide the best defense is looking unimportant and fitting a good tank!

yes, in high sec. Concord is no different from the police--in the five seconds it takes them to show, the damage can be done.

are you, upset?

you seem upset.

This is funny. Bigtime carebear who endlessly cries for nerfs to ganking, and mostly gets what he wants.
Then when Retribution hands him tools on a silver platter to attack the evil gankers/suspects - he discovers 'docking games' that have existed since the beginning of time - and cries because 'its too hard'.

Pathetic, but in a funny way.

Damn ;/ i do somthing wrong while quote, (damn this was wall of txt)

That's right... it's a ****-ty game with ****-ty rules... let's just get it over with and nerf ship-spinning...

I cant believe every statistic and numbers in game or kb sources, last 24h in jita 260 pods and ships destroyed in Jita probably noobships which give average 1820 ships per week ,50k+ monthly and 60000+ per year only in jita, well not exacly only a noob ships but pobably 70% of them are noob ships and self destructed pods, due to self destruct, lol aggresion, sentry agro etc.

From other perspective i agree with you, i cant say you are wrong, its all depend how people see how thing went in general, in my opinion null sec is to safe and almost no risk at all while people living in null space,you mention ( you hi sec people with your concord) well , im carebear in general but a very old carebear who play eve longer than 6 years and i got some expirence from null space and low sec space where i spent over 2 or 3 years in general with my few characters, and just got my personal view on this whole risk vs reward myth.

CCP please remove local and directional scaner, give us real risk vs reward! just kidding ;) people dont panic

I have moved in a hauler through hisec with a killright on me. In the last few WEEKS. I deliberately went to Hek to get some twitch pvp-er to come remove it, so yeah... hisec is hella safe, even with a killright people in hisec are hesitant to initiate pvp with a (tanked, stabbed) T1 hauler. How much of a paranoid nullbear does one need to be, to deem hisec unsafe? How much of a target do people make themselves? Judging by various KM's, lots of people are just plain careless, especially in hisec.

I have been in a nullsec Alliance for a while and yeah, hisec locals gets more colorfull. With people minding their own individual business mostly, because that's what hisec is about. I once got agressed on a gate by a neutral (I had that killright on me) and replied "good try!" when warping away. I was then told that I would have been dead if her hubbie wasn't AFK. But that's the whole point. Hisec is a blob of AFK-ish people NOT paying much attention for the most part. Ganks happen mostly when you haven't thought things through, when you make a vital mistake on which someone else capitulates. Same goes for station games. As long as a well tanked, stabbed T1 hauler needs killrights to make hauling in hisec even remotely interesting, I'd say hisec is pretty darn safe. Too safe? No, I think it's not a bad thing that there is an area in the game where people learn to slack off. Oh by the ISK Gods, think of all the juicy targets they will present should they ever try and unlearn that behaviour!

I'm with Jenn aSide on the safety subject, nullsec system security exists because players have secured that space, and should they lose that control they lose all of their assets. THAT is the inherent risk of nullsec, LOSING EVERYTHING. Nullbears have fought for that security, and fight to keep it everyday, untill the inevitable day of Alliance failcascade or server death comes. I frankly find it offensive to just wave away the effort that went into these security measures, and the thousands of players involved in their upkeep. When this much effort goes into sustaining security, I can understand why the untanked, unstabbed max-yield vocal minority gets tough love when they cry about the loss of a failfitted 300M blingboat on a station game.

/rant