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Is CCP working on EVE for the ARM platforom?

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-01-06 23:21:05 UTC
nah what's gonna happen is that when EVE moves past windows XP, you're going to switch to a windows mobile device because Microsoft is eliminating the barrier between system architecture between desktops and mobile devices
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-01-07 00:51:56 UTC
No, I will not buy your ARM based tablet, friend! If I do, it will be second hand, and I will root it and pirate _everything_, and you will never see a penny from me.

No part of eve is appropriate for a tablet anyway. What is with you weirdos?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-01-07 00:56:49 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Just wondering - with the fast increasing numbers of ARM devices in the world, compared to the lower amount of x86/64 platform, is CCP looking to find ways to port the game over to ARM? This would ensure the survival of EVE and also give it a far lager user base (EVE on Surface RT, anyone? Big smile )


I think they ought to get it squared away on PC first. 17% TiDi in venal with only 450 in local Sad

That has everything to do with server performance, and not client. Besides, TiDi applies to the whole node, which is usually a collection of several systems (that don't necessarily have any connection to each other) so computation for this entire collection of systems may be enough to trigger TiDi. I've had 30% TiDi in my ratting system in Tenal when I've been the only person in local. It could be that some random system in, say, Period Basis had a large fleet moving through and it happened to be on the same node as the system I was in.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#24 - 2013-01-07 00:57:59 UTC
if anyone else plays eve as I do then it would simply be too much information for the screen size so I feel it would be impractical to be able to use Eve on a tablet as it is currently on a PC/MAC, HOWEVER, I would be for a cut down client that allows chat interface and to do station types things in a simplified display, chat chans, market, skills etc.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#25 - 2013-01-07 02:29:46 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
There are some programs like Splashtop that let you Stream games to your tablet/phone.

CCP got Transgaming Technologies to make the EVE client playable on the Mac OS.

If they got someone else to do something similar it might be doable but I don't know if that's actually possible.


Stegas Tyrano wrote:
playable


I do not think that word means what you think it means.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Miss Piggy
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-01-07 02:59:18 UTC
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
There are some programs like Splashtop that let you Stream games to your tablet/phone.

CCP got Transgaming Technologies to make the EVE client playable on the Mac OS.

If they got someone else to do something similar it might be doable but I don't know if that's actually possible.


Splashtop works very well for remote viewing movies etc. Looks graphically good with eve over a home lan even.....
but 3g or 4g.....meh.

I double dog dare anyone to undock say a jump freighter and fly it around without dying horribly in a low sec
because of the control aspect on your android/ipad touchscreen using splashtop.

If you do please fraps the process and post in the appropriate eve forum for later amusement.

NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-01-07 03:11:52 UTC
Miss Piggy wrote:
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
There are some programs like Splashtop that let you Stream games to your tablet/phone.

CCP got Transgaming Technologies to make the EVE client playable on the Mac OS.

If they got someone else to do something similar it might be doable but I don't know if that's actually possible.


Splashtop works very well for remote viewing movies etc. Looks graphically good with eve over a home lan even.....
but 3g or 4g.....meh.

I double dog dare anyone to undock say a jump freighter and fly it around without dying horribly in a low sec
because of the control aspect on your android/ipad touchscreen using splashtop.

If you do please fraps the process and post in the appropriate eve forum for later amusement.


I have flown around using a vpn (sidesteps the hardware requirements), was no difference than using a mouse.
Keyboard was a downer as it took up half the screen but that is fixable by getting a slider instead of a virtual.
Even scored a kill with it.
Galaxy S3 FTR
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#28 - 2013-03-01 23:12:37 UTC
Elvis Fett wrote:
EVE needs linux support not tablet support.


Older hardware has a better time with LINUX. CCP Support!
TharOkha
0asis Group
#29 - 2013-03-02 02:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Just wondering - with the fast increasing numbers of ARM devices in the world, compared to the lower amount of x86/64 platform,


Okay, this was discussed several times, you cannot compare those two different worlds (PC and tablets / smarts). Its just like comparing bicycle sales compared to enormous automobile sales.Yes PC segmet is decreasing but thats not sing of "PC is dying". Its just sign that "everyday" people just dont need huge powerful PCs or laptops for their every day use (internet, facebook, mails, movies, music, casual games etc...). . That means that 10 years ago, there were no alternatives. We had black /white "dumb" phones, ARM was just only at the begining (pocket PCs) of course that PC were raising in sales because people wanted to surf internet, they wanted to play casual games... Now with the tablets on market, tablets perfectly suites for AJUs (Average Joe Users) usage and , of course, they dont need Core i7s with 16gb ram for such "primitive" tasks. But PCs will alwasy be "must have" for households, as a computing center for more serious work (like writing long word documents, large spreadsheets, editing huge photos like panospherical panoramas, video editing etc, simply everything that need raw computing power). And also hitech enthusialist gamers will always incline to modifiable and upgradeable PC rather than tablets or consoles. (please no flame war, consoles are great, but im writing about HITECH ENTHUSIALISTs which wants cutting edge graphics on multi monitor setups etc)

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is CCP looking to find ways to port the game over to ARM?


NO WAY !!! No ports !!!. Yes, I would like to see some station game too (station trading, poker with your corpmates etc), It should interact with real world of eve (like dust), but NO PORTS. That would mean compromises and thats no good (just look at Windows 8 - not bad system but too many compromises in favor for touch devices = not using full potential of PC interface = less effective ) EVE NEEDS hardware keyboard shortcuts and pixel accurate mouse. Something you cannot emulate on touch screen devices.


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This would ensure the survival of EVE


As far as PC will be here (and believe me, it will) EVE never dies. In fact EVE is maybe the last of the games (not indie) that are complicated (which is good) with steep learning curve and it uses full potential of PC interface (5 fingers on HW keyboard + 2-5 fingers on mouse+ XY movement of mouse). EVE NEEDS many information on the screen, EVE needs to be interacted swiftly with pixel accurate mouse pointer and it needs small icons and many informations on screen.


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and also give it a far lager user base (EVE on Surface RT, anyone?


I agree with that larger user base. Thats why im pro-separate mini games for arm (like dust) but im strictly againist multiplatform EVE which would lead to game full of compromises and restrictions.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#30 - 2013-03-02 02:39:28 UTC
CREST is going to be amazing when it's finished.
Ai Shun
#31 - 2013-03-02 02:51:32 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Just wondering - with the fast increasing numbers of ARM devices in the world, compared to the lower amount of x86/64 platform, is CCP looking to find ways to port the game over to ARM? This would ensure the survival of EVE and also give it a far lager user base (EVE on Surface RT, anyone? Big smile )


Yes, they announced they will do this as soon as all forum posters search before starting ridiculous threads.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#32 - 2013-03-02 03:31:26 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
CREST is going to be amazing when it's finished.


I've been using their toothpaste for years; where you been?

j/k, but if you google search that is about all you'll come up with. Assume adding something tablet will help. Really, I have an iPhone and that's about as gadgety as I get.

regarding the topic.. interesting note, is that AMD is intending to integrate ARM, (over Jaguar), in a series of x86 based Opterons for 2014. These are for a microserver family, with the X86 core handling the majority of the performance workload. ..best just link it:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/amd-64-bit-arm-opteron-server-cpus/

That should clear up a few things regarding ARMs capabilities I think. Something most of us understand intuitively, but some internet trends and hype might lead you to believe otherwise. It isn't so much the power as the purpose.

If you check ARM on wikipedia, you'll find a general breakdown of the specifications of the various ARM processors. Just flip over to Intel and AMD and you'll start to see the difference in comparing the two. Smatphones are cool, but they are not PCs. Neither are tablets.

That said, PCoIP doesn't need much power as the majority of the work is don't by the PC on the other side of that IP. You can do that already though, provided you set it up right.
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Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#33 - 2013-03-02 10:09:07 UTC
Pewty McPew wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Pretty sure that most ARM devices wouldn't have the power or the screen space to run a full EVE client. In theory a limited client that could change skills, update market orders, etc could work I guess.


The ARM doesn't.

It would be cool if they made a telnet client, so we could all login from our ARM's and old C-64's and 286's to change skills and update market orders. :)




EVE MUD FTW I would play this.

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"You jump through to Jita"

"27 pages of spam"

Dock 4-4

"You dock 4-4"

open market

"27 pages of spam"

"Market opens"

"3000 pages of market items"
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