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ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#21 - 2013-01-06 21:13:19 UTC
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-01-06 21:16:07 UTC
I'm putting it on t1 cruiser buff no troll.

Greatest idea ever.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2013-01-06 21:28:38 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
I'm putting it on t1 cruiser buff no troll.

Greatest idea ever.



Did this not occur already or did I miss an expansion ?Lol

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2013-01-06 21:28:46 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
This might be the highest number we have seen in about two years. Congrats to CCP and all the players for an awesome patch! EvE is dying ... or maybe not.



lol this happens all the time, it will go back to normal when everyones trials have expired.
lilol' me
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-01-06 21:29:21 UTC
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.


but it doesnt continue to grow though does it... its actually declined..
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#26 - 2013-01-06 21:31:22 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.


but it doesnt continue to grow though does it... its actually declined..



This is very true when observing EVE-Offline graphs. Not that I WANT it to be dying. It just makes the deny-ers look even more foolish.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#27 - 2013-01-06 21:43:06 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.


but it doesnt continue to grow though does it... its actually declined..


You have just failed the fact checker test.

The Tears Must Flow
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#28 - 2013-01-06 21:44:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Nessa Aldeen wrote:
Didn't you get the memo? Eve is dying, the numbers are all wrong because 18 year old armchair virgin experts say so, 'Die, eve, Die! ' I would think Chribba would have the records on the highest PCU recorded in the last 2 years and the exact time of the rebound. Care to comment, Holy Lord of Veldspar?

That depends on what you count as the rebound.

The rebound from Incarna happened with the mere news that crucible would be a feature-fix expansion, and it's largely been upwards-trending ever since. This last (massive) bump happened with Retribution, though, and while the stats might not look like it, it's been growing fairly consistently since. Christmas and New Year's have always been low-pop days — apparently spending time with family and friends trumps EVE — so they regularly drive down numbers to much lower than the standard pops at this time of year. This year, though, they've been very high even for being the holidays.

For comparison, look at the 2011 graph, starting just before Incarna, and the the 2012 graph. The massive drop in 2011 was obviously Incarna. That dip-and-bump in 2011-10 was the week the Goon ice interdiciton started, only to be completely outdone by the first devblog about the changes in Crucible and the hope that sprung for it. A lot of that was later (temporarily) undone when a whole slew of AAA-titles had their Chrismas release just before the expansion itself went live. The numbers continued to slowly climb in early 2012, and as usual, we see the standard spring decline in, followed by the normal summer rise… and then a ridiculously large increase as Retribution hits.

Oh, and since the new year, we've consistently been at 8–9k above previous year's levels.
Lexmana
#29 - 2013-01-06 21:45:21 UTC
lilol' me wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
This might be the highest number we have seen in about two years. Congrats to CCP and all the players for an awesome patch! EvE is dying ... or maybe not.



lol this happens all the time, it will go back to normal when everyones trials have expired.


Just like after every other record am i right?

lilol' me wrote:
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.


but it doesnt continue to grow though does it... its actually declined..


Dud(ette), we all know what happened on the summer of rage. Sure, we don't have much data yet but factor in the dip after incarna and it actually looks like EVE is recovering and is in good health. We are in better shape this winter than last and PCUs has been growing steadily for a month. Yeah it is holidays but it was holidays last year too.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2013-01-06 21:46:45 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.


but it doesnt continue to grow though does it... its actually declined..


You have just failed the fact checker test.



No. You fail the eyesight test.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#31 - 2013-01-06 21:49:02 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
lilol' me wrote:
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:
It does shine a light on the doom-sayers, when eve continues to grow. I am looking forward to what EVE's 10 year Expansion is going to be.


but it doesnt continue to grow though does it... its actually declined..


You have just failed the fact checker test.



No. You fail the eyesight test.


EvE Online is the only MMO that has growth, every, single, year.

Fact.

The Tears Must Flow
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-01-06 21:59:27 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Show where the word December came into the discussion ? By your hand............, that's how. Whatever.

You thought it was 2012. You said it was "last year". Then you remembered that it was 2013. Then you said it was 2010.

2012 - 1 = 2011

This is difficult stuff.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#33 - 2013-01-06 22:00:50 UTC
50,000 of those are CFC sorry Oops

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#34 - 2013-01-06 22:01:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Sal Landry wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Show where the word December came into the discussion ? By your hand............, that's how. Whatever.

You thought it was 2012. You said it was "last year". Then you remembered that it was 2013. Then you said it was 2010.

2012 - 1 = 2011

This is difficult stuff.



You are so wrong just like this thread. And with evidence for all to see. What is your point ?

Goodbye.

edit: also....post with your main. I dare you.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2013-01-06 22:04:17 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
You are so wrong just like this thread. And with evidence for all to see.
Could you point to where he's wrong, please?
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-01-06 22:05:10 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
edit: also....post with your main. I dare you.

My point is that you can't count, obviously.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#37 - 2013-01-06 22:06:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Clearly there is high demand for space based sandbox MMOs if EVE can get that amount of players without content expansions for 3 years in a row.

And MMO developers continue to clone primitive Everquest / WoW themepark gameplay in Rift, LOTRO, TERA, TESO, TSW, SWTOR...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#38 - 2013-01-06 22:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Lipbite wrote:
Clearly MMO market is missing space based sandbox MMOs if EVE can get that amount of players even without content expansions for 3 years in a row.

Funnily enough, the last time we got a content expansion, it set off a pretty significant decline, only to be followed by a failed content-patch that caused that downwards slope to turn into a vertical drop. P
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#39 - 2013-01-06 22:39:40 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Clearly there is high demand for space based sandbox MMOs if EVE can get that amount of players without content expansions for 3 years in a row.

And MMO developers continue to clone primitive Everquest / WoW themepark gameplay in Rift, LOTRO, TERA, TESO, TSW, SWTOR...


Define "content" as it applies to EVE please.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Skip Faraday
Nexus Fleet Inc.
#40 - 2013-01-07 00:29:53 UTC
The game is still attracting newbs.

I'm one of them and I've been around for half a month. I even have an alt account.