Warfare & Tactics

Why do you thing beam fire before pulses?

Generall pulse lasers with scorch are prefered as the damage projection is awesome (gives longest range with something like second highest damage) for laser weapons. Which gives you a very flexible weapon system. Up close with navy MF and out longer with scorch.

Beams have a different application as being a long ranged weapon to start with. The thing with Pulse v beams is unlike other weapon systems they are much closer in ability between long/short range applications.

I would suggest unless you are going specifically for a long long range sniper then pulse fitted with scorch is what will probably serve you better.

All turrets fire instantly. The thing that changes is the rate of fire. Pulses fire faster than beams.

short range = faster rate of fire
longe range = slower rate of fire

With range comes the ability to shoot them form further away so you may be able to engage them first from a greater distance....it that is what you mean by first first.

PVE is a completely different setup TBH.

OP is this for PVE or PVP? and what lvl missions/site are you talking about if PVE?


One of the best things about lasers in general is the opitmal/fall off ranges. High optimal means excellent damage projection. But low fall off means once out of those ranges you are prety much just a lightshow. But unless you are doing PVE on a few certain long range missions pulse with scorch will give you greater flexibility all round.

I look at stuff from a pvp perspective by default as it's been well over a year since I ran any missions. But I generally ran with beams on missions just cos you can land and blap whatever is on the field and use drones/webs if anything gets close.

I never got into high lvl mission/site running in many amarr ships mainly just a T2 fit Abbadon and on that I fit pulses and use scorch. But yeah vOv PVE whatever works for you is good as it is pretty much a stress free environment to fight in.


EDIT: Either way Lasers are one of the coolest look weapons systems in game. New missile effects are almost as cool but not as awesome and solid beams of light flying everywhere!

I can't think of any situation I've ever been in where I thought "Man I really wish I had a ship with beams on it right now!" and I mean I can use T2 beam lasers up to large. There just aren't many situations where being able to hit a thing 120km away is more useful than having a ship with a proper tank on it.

I used to fly a Nightmare with two Tracking Links from a Scimitar in lvl4 missions. That's about the only sensible application for beam lasers I can think of (apart from the obvious sniper Oracle which is done better by every other race).

wow! thanks for all the info and comments, sorry i dont always get on here a lot so pardon the long/late reply.
pve will be for mission 3 and above, i have since fitted pulses to try out on the harby and recent to a abaddon,(not fully skilled yet but wanted in my hangar :)) as she looks pretty..
on general mission running lv2 it seems the pulses have the edge with multi crystal, havent tried the others yet as i need to skill up a bit more.
in the end i will do some pvp with as well.
and yes the beams firing first was a distance related thing.
i find that when the enemy gets too close the drones take over, and with the odd hit from the lasers if i cant keep my distance gets rid quite quick.
thanks again for your input guys, :)

Beams would be really good if scorch wasn't overpowered.

I guess it's been a while since you reinforced a tower with subcaps. Oracle with pulse and MF is basically the best for this.

I don't always fly Amarr, but when I do I prefer Beams.

Did your kitey crap just TD my Coercer? Let me immediately swap ammo and surprise the hell out of you.