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A.B.C Initiative ------- Asteroid Belts Conservation --- Sustainable Development

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-01-06 13:04:25 UTC
Miss Piggy wrote:
Twats.


is there any reason you are saying that?

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Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#62 - 2013-01-06 15:16:00 UTC
You are making a few mistakes in your OP.

You presume GD has serious people, instead of Trolls.

You presume Those "Strip Miners" do anything else but fire up their lasers and alt-tabbing.

You presume they alt-tab to the forums..
Ginger Barbarella
#63 - 2013-01-06 15:17:23 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Good post, and something I think a lot of players overlook. Your average EVE denizen's thought process goes something like "hurr durr me mine belt, belt grow back eventually"; ignoring of course the tedious and manpower-consuming coding that goes into generating a new virtual resource.


Cuz, new code has to be written every time a belt has to regen.

You should have stayed in bed this morning. Your brain clearly hasn't engaged yet.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-01-12 03:45:20 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
You are making a few mistakes in your OP.

You presume GD has serious people, instead of Trolls.

You presume Those "Strip Miners" do anything else but fire up their lasers and alt-tabbing.

You presume they alt-tab to the forums..


well, every steps counts, even if its baby steps at first.

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-01-12 04:02:10 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Every two seconds, an area of asteroid field the size of Jita is lost due to belt stripping or destructive practices. Seventy two per cent of Caldari's intact asteroid landscapes and 55 per cent of the Null's have already been lost forever. Now the Gallante's belts face the same threat.

While the causes vary from region to region, they all have one thing in common: strip mining. Through orca stripping ,mob mining, multiboxing and crappy spawn, humankind is wiping out the asteroid belts - and the life that depends on them - at a terrifying pace.

What is being practiced now is unsustainable and will only harm the benefits of future generations(as in belt generations).
As the belts are stripped of their minerals , the upcoming spawn will be much smaller in quantity and much lower in quality.
Decreasing at 5% every time you strip a belt

For the sake of your own profit and the benefit of the whole of New Eden. Save the asteroid belts ,not just for your neighbors ,but also for yourself

Be in the know.

This message is sponsored by bounties from Jita.


You might want to check your facts (have no idea where you got those numbers from) before you come up with a troll like this one.
You would have done a lot better if you didn't stick null with high-sec kind of blew your whole troll apart.


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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-01-12 04:11:33 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Every two seconds, an area of asteroid field the size of Jita is lost due to belt stripping or destructive practices. Seventy two per cent of Caldari's intact asteroid landscapes and 55 per cent of the Null's have already been lost forever. Now the Gallante's belts face the same threat.

While the causes vary from region to region, they all have one thing in common: strip mining. Through orca stripping ,mob mining, multiboxing and crappy spawn, humankind is wiping out the asteroid belts - and the life that depends on them - at a terrifying pace.

What is being practiced now is unsustainable and will only harm the benefits of future generations(as in belt generations).
As the belts are stripped of their minerals , the upcoming spawn will be much smaller in quantity and much lower in quality.
Decreasing at 5% every time you strip a belt

For the sake of your own profit and the benefit of the whole of New Eden. Save the asteroid belts ,not just for your neighbors ,but also for yourself

Be in the know.

This message is sponsored by bounties from Jita.


You might want to check your facts (have no idea where you got those numbers from) before you come up with a troll like this one.
You would have done a lot better if you didn't stick null with high-sec kind of blew your whole troll apart.





Asteroid belt depletion is a common knowledge :P
Generally , the asteroid size decrease by a factor of 0.05 every time you strip the belts.
Obviously the ultimate minimum asteroid size varies according to the system and is entirely dependent on CCP's parameters.

But as a solid fact, asteroid belt chaining is invaluable to EVERYONE'S long term profit is indisputable

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-01-12 04:13:22 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:



Asteroid belt depletion is a common knowledge :P
Generally , the asteroid size decrease by a factor of 0.05 every time you strip the belts.
Obviously the ultimate minimum asteroid size varies according to the system and is entirely dependent on CCP's parameters.

But as a solid fact, asteroid belt chaining is invaluable to EVERYONE'S long term profit is indisputable


Really show me the quote on that , and which belts it applies too.



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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-01-12 04:21:39 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:



Asteroid belt depletion is a common knowledge :P
Generally , the asteroid size decrease by a factor of 0.05 every time you strip the belts.
Obviously the ultimate minimum asteroid size varies according to the system and is entirely dependent on CCP's parameters.

But as a solid fact, asteroid belt chaining is invaluable to EVERYONE'S long term profit is indisputable


Really show me the quote on that , and which belts it applies too.





Asteroid belt chaining applies to all belts .
Call it an urban legend if you must , but anyone who dares to call him/herself a miner will understand such a fact.

There is no real actual detailed research based on such due to the myopic view of the miners and it being an afk side profession
But here is a few other threads that carries similar view.
If a belt is left to grow , it'll reach size and yield of gargantuan proportions.
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=39216
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=39216

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Malcorian Vandsteidt
Alpha Trades
Solyaris Chtonium
#69 - 2013-01-12 04:23:26 UTC
I represent Celestial Construction and Mining Industries, of which wishes to educate individuals on proper strip mining practices and how to reseed your asteroid belts to provide a healthy and recoverable resource.

Please remember also that all commodities, weapons, ships, cloths, materials, and life support systems all come from these valuable minerals. Which we would like to point out if not mined in vast quantities will cause the death of millions of capsoleers, and the crash of the New Eden economy. Billions will be left starving and out of work, Billions more will die slow and painfully in the vast and lonely reaches of space unable to reach a station or a planet without the fuel necessary to power their ship. In addition stations will be left in utter ruin and New Eden will once again enter a dark age much like the one after the great journey.



Disclaimer:

CCMI is not responsible for any Asteroids which fail to adhere to the DCM Asteroid protocols. All dysfunctional Asteroids will be mined and stripped so as not to spread said defective to other Asteroids. CCMI is also not responsible for any negligence on the part of the Save the Asteroid Society, Asteroids if left to grow will attain mass large enough to disrupt shipping lanes and pull small moons out of orbit causing economical destruction and Chaos.

CCMI welcomes all parties interested in joining it's strip mining fleets and seeks to educate all Industrialist in the proper way to most efficiently strip mine entire systems of defective belts.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-01-12 04:30:34 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:



Asteroid belt depletion is a common knowledge :P
Generally , the asteroid size decrease by a factor of 0.05 every time you strip the belts.
Obviously the ultimate minimum asteroid size varies according to the system and is entirely dependent on CCP's parameters.

But as a solid fact, asteroid belt chaining is invaluable to EVERYONE'S long term profit is indisputable


Really show me the quote on that , and which belts it applies too.





Asteroid belt chaining applies to all belts .
Call it an urban legend if you must , but anyone who dares to call him/herself a miner will understand such a fact.

There is no real actual detailed research based on such due to the myopic view of the miners and it being an afk side profession
But here is a few other threads that carries similar view.
If a belt is left to grow , it'll reach size and yield of gargantuan proportions.
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=39216
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=39216


A discussioin from 2003 LolLol
It has been mentioned as well that roid sizes are actually capped so leaving them grow forever doesn't do anything.
It has also been said that roids grow a little every day.
Others say they only grow during the days they are scheduled to respawn which is currently twice a week right now I believe.
And of course there is the one about if you cherry pick you can slowly remove a certain roid from a belts with enough time.
The list goes on and on.

However all this is completely pointless as all the above thoughts and rules don't apply to certain belts in null.
Which makes this entire tread another troll.



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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-01-12 04:39:35 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:



Asteroid belt depletion is a common knowledge :P
Generally , the asteroid size decrease by a factor of 0.05 every time you strip the belts.
Obviously the ultimate minimum asteroid size varies according to the system and is entirely dependent on CCP's parameters.

But as a solid fact, asteroid belt chaining is invaluable to EVERYONE'S long term profit is indisputable


Really show me the quote on that , and which belts it applies too.





Asteroid belt chaining applies to all belts .
Call it an urban legend if you must , but anyone who dares to call him/herself a miner will understand such a fact.

There is no real actual detailed research based on such due to the myopic view of the miners and it being an afk side profession
But here is a few other threads that carries similar view.
If a belt is left to grow , it'll reach size and yield of gargantuan proportions.
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=39216
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=39216


A discussioin from 2003 LolLol
It has been mentioned as well that roid sizes are actually capped so leaving them grow forever doesn't do anything.
It has also been said that roids grow a little every day.
Others say they only grow during the days they are scheduled to respawn which is currently twice a week right now I believe.
And of course there is the one about if you cherry pick you can slowly remove a certain roid from a belts with enough time.
The list goes on and on.

However all this is completely pointless as all the above thoughts and rules don't apply to certain belts in null.
Which makes this entire tread another troll.




Roid size have a maximum capacity.
True .
But no one is saying "Don't mine" , what I'm saying is leave a few rocks behind so they can grow to maximum size ,and with the belt at cap, you can start manipulating it for the maximum amount of profit .

Am I the dull edged one or are you the handicapped one

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#72 - 2013-01-12 04:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Ivy Romanova wrote:

Roid size have a maximum capacity.
True .
But no one is saying "Don't mine" , what I'm saying is leave a few rocks behind so they can grow to maximum size ,and with the belt at cap, you can start manipulating it for the maximum amount of profit .

Am I the dull edged one or are you the handicapped one



I don't know, have you figured out which belts the rules don't apply to yet ?
And second considering in high-sec you are lucky to get more then 2 cycles from a single rock.
What do you want people to do ?
Take one cycle and move on the next rock ?

No I think it would be better to just start blowing up the planets, once they are broken up it will be a lot easier and more effective to get what we want out of them.

I think there is enough Titans around now with nothing better to due.
Perhaps they should be modified into planet killers.
Yes I believe our time would be better spent discussing how we can get the titans retrofitted into planet killers.

Then there would be no shortage of roids.

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-01-12 05:41:48 UTC
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
CCMI is also not responsible for any negligence on the part of the Save the Asteroid Society, Asteroids if left to grow will attain mass large enough to disrupt shipping lanes and pull small moons out of orbit causing economical destruction and Chaos.


Not only are they a disruption to shipping lanes, they are also obstructions to combat patrol vessels.