EVE General Discussion

On a side note Skydell, I must compliment you on rising absolutely magnificently to the challenge set by Mayhaw. I thought he had you in some trouble there, but you've shown us the difference between a talented amateur getting in a lucky hit, and a true world champion like yourself rising to and overcoming challenges.

o7

Shield boosters, ballistic controls, nanofibres, missile launchers, tracking computers, nagas, cyno frigates, cyno generators, shield extenders, rokhs, apocs, abaddons, taloss, oracles, noctises, iteron Vs, Badger IIs....

Small towers
It's like CCP put
Component assembly arrays,
Ammunition assembly arrays
Equipment assembly arrays

In the game just to confuse us.

It's like they gave you Sov fuel bonuses just to make things harder for you.

It's like you aren't telling us something.

BTW Skydell, our alliance leader is online right now. I'm chasing this up with him

[17:22:36] Malcanis > Bliss, why do you want to control what hi-sec people fly?


Is there anything you would like me to ask him for you, Skydell?

Once again the reply off somebody who talks like they are in the last, poorest alliance in game, with everything hammering them, barely breathing above the water's surface, shouting their last agony shriek before going down.

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I really, really wanted to stay off this thread because of course it started talking about one thing and of course it got derailed in the current mittani.com propaganda like every single other vaguely 0.0 pertinent thread, where you see the same 4-5 Goonwaffe professional forum warriors twisting every topic to suit their current agenda.

But since I admired Malcanis 1.0 (the former independent thinker, the one with the smart Law written on the signature), I'll put a tiny grain of sand in the fat vag... table. This is not a direct reply to him but to everybody.
I expect this reply will be completely travised, thrashed, flamed and sectioned but hey, for now I am still free to talk my mind so you'll have to bear with my ranting for a little more.


Hypothesis: CFC + others block are domitating EvE. Not just being prominent, they have a game in free fall into their hands, controlling null sec and hi sec key markets, null sec sov, when they want to "interdict" something in hi sec like ice or even Jita, they can. They are also collectively the wealthiest of all, control both the bottleneck moons and the less bottleneck ones.

This cannot be denied, it's just as evident as the fact that the sky looks blue-ish.

Hypothesis 2: The industry change is indeed a fair idea which I myself support. It's even more needed in WHs than null sec, but it's not like you consider anything or anyone else except yourselves (except for patting yourselves on the back or to spite them).


Thesis: with the current EvE economy and topography, you'll be even more entrenched and unmovable and impossibly wealthy. This of course is exceptionally well known by Aryth and the other leaders.


Why: having the burden to play all the stupid "null => hi sec => null sec again" chain you are effectively somewhat slowed down to your best efficient path.

I repeat, it's stupid and even unfair yet even with that slow down you have not only won the game, but also bent it like a glove dressed on your hands.

The "give farmers the farms" too is a very fair concept and some other games have done it.
But - as requested and said several times by yours truly - those farms give the alliance their own bottom-up economy.

Now, a second other point Aryth and co. surely know: the more the numbers, the more the advantage at having a bottom-up economy. That is, a further, massive push forward, whole in collective alliance wealth and power. Of course it neatly stacks with the top down economy you already have got.

Now, it's OK to give credit where credit is due: you indeed won EvE. And you are unmistakably working HARD to improve your collective performance, efficiency, offensive...

As I said several times in the past, you have got to the game over credits, have seen them all, and now you are back to the main menu. You can now play a "past game over" scenario (like Dragon Age) where you can just go around and do what you want, return to old places you want to see again, maybe finish some secondary quests...
You once again have overdone it so much that you can't see you are already past the victory screens, but hey, you still keep paying subs so it's fine. You just don't see that basically you are arming yourselves against... who? You are closer and closer to be the last man standing.

Is it the best CCP goal to give you tools for further power increase? Despite the fact these tools would be actually fair?


Or would it be best if CCP first redid the sov mechanics so that there are again a lot of sov "actors" and THEN (or also together) gave the industry buffs needed to make null sec on par / better than hi sec?


Don't make my former MMO's guild mistake: we rolled everything until we had to play with naked alts just to face a challenge and even then, everybody else left. You are left victor... over a desolated desert.

(No, not for a second I illude myself you'll even parse what I have written).

Ah yes, POSes. So to fix nullsec's industrial capacity problems, we'll have to POS up every moon we can find, give everyone POS roles and let everyone steal from everyone. Great plan.

Or we could get CCP to fix the mechanical problems with nullsec and end up with a better game.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2011/nullsec-board-for-blog_t.jpg
Gee, I wonder...

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/The_Initiative.

Here you go buddy. I know you're good at industry and economics and such, so bust out your pocket calculator, and tell me how "rich" in industrial resources we are. Are we Nonni rich, or just Caldari Prime rich?

this thread doesn't stop giving, looool

So really? Really? This is what you're going to bring to the discussion: a long, poorly constructed "goonspiracy" post? Jesus V.V. that's heartbreaking.

You... you do realise that there's a pretty good chance that within the next few months I'll be involved in a blocwar with the CFC, right? That I owe them absolutely no political alleigence whatsoever? I just want to make sure that you know this. I can if I so choose say whatever I want about the CFC, goons, The Mittani, with zero comeback either from my own alliance or from the CFC?





Oh and by the way? I think we'll win that blocwar.

I really do.

lmao 4000 "home made taloe"

yes, we built 4000 Talos in the same region that had to have half of its manufacturing slots locked down to convert POS fuel stockpiles into fuel blocks

good one "awfull ioci"