EVE General Discussion

Given this thread is about how SOV doctrine impacts your lack of industry, it stands to reason that those industrialists you categorize as both non-sissy and within your alliance must have already, or one of those two conditions has not been met. The alternative is that you've chosen to ally or incorporate those not up to the challenge of plying their trade under the conditions you provide in your sovereign space for whatever reason.
Obviously, NBSI is excellent for taking and holding territory, but lacking in providing the required environment for the scale of industry you covet from other areas. Deliberately polarizing 'less economically efficient' into 'completely impossible' may also be a contributing factor, as even with trivial investigation it is quite obvious that a small number of committed industrial players could easily supercede your 'single system better than region' retterick. There would be an isk buy in, and maintenance required, and risk involved, but those are all tenets of the game - emergent content requires drivers, and you've already proven that targets not geared for frontline combat encourage 'emergent' gameplay.
Those industrialists that enjoy it are no less valuable to your faction than experienced and committed PVP pilots, you've just been metagaming and triaging a self-inflicted wound in that respect for a long time.

You refuse to see the error in your thinking.

I know like most Vets know, being in a Null Alliance translates to being a foot soldier. You won't be allowed to be an Industrial mogul. You will be allowed to server them and make a bit of ISK ratting or something. Null alliances covet their Industrial contracts and keep them under the control of a very select few.

I know like most Vets know, all alliances in EVE come crashing down. When they do, that select group who control them walk away with untold fortunes and the foot soldiers head back to high sec wondering how they are no better off than they were when they started, Wondering why they were never allowed in the door.

Its a pyramid scam. It worked for 10 years. Let it go.

You're making some large assumptions about what I "know". I can speak for my own alliance with some certainty when I tell you that no such situation would apply to our members. Our alliance leadership would be nothing short of overwhelmed with joy to have the ships & mods we need produced locally, since it would remove a huge chunk of their logistics workload. They'd be more than happy to let the members make ISk this way.

If anything the alliance contract fitted ships keep the price down because the "moduls" can get so many of them fitted and in the market before people like Boat get us welped.

Importers soon learn you can't sell for much more than that since there's a massive supply - all brought in from your friendly Jita to VFK jump freighter, of course.

Completely and utterly wrong.


I have a ME50 tinfoil BPO I can give you 10-run BPCs from.

What the hell are you even talking about? How do you imagine what you describe working? Spell it out for me, because what you're saying bears no relationship to my experience.

That's because it bears very little relationship to reality in the first place.

Also, lol flee market.

I assume you have some evidence of that, then, since I, personally, have probably imported 300-500 ships from Jita into VFK, along with the modules and ammo for them.


Why yes, yes I do. The ulterior motive is to get CCP to improve industry in nullsec.

No way, nullsec is a harsh and cold wasteland were dogs and bears like us fight for no good reason. Highsec is where the ~tea and scones~ are. As well as all the dosh.

Obviously.
9 dreads per station at a time is plenty. Build more Amarr Outposts