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Does GOON pay CCP? They seem to get away with a lot and nobody cares.

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Selyra Lin
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-02 05:28:16 UTC
Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. I try to talk to every possible person in Goon that I can think of and tell them about this and tell all tell me to **** off. Tried to talk to Tector, La Nariz, and a few more.

All I get from La Nariz is a mail saying he has eyes in all over Eve and knows what is going on. Sad part is, he was in the convo with me and the recruiter scammer talking about some capital program they never had.

Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp. I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.

So they are allowed to do whatever they please and say whatever they want and nothing happens, but when someone laughs at them for trying to scam the same person twice I get warned?

Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.

So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court?
Frying Doom
#2 - 2013-01-02 05:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
IBTL

Oh and once you convert cash into an ingame item it actually has no value in RL. So no its not fraud. And the relevant laws are in the server location not yours and his.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Steven Seaga1
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-02 05:29:41 UTC
INB4 Rumor thread
FoxBird Freir
Bloomberg Horizont
#4 - 2013-01-02 05:30:07 UTC
I lol'd
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-01-02 05:30:21 UTC
Selyra Lin wrote:
Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff.

lol you can't read.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Tector
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-02 05:33:20 UTC
The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over.
Hannah Flex
#7 - 2013-01-02 05:33:44 UTC
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Sandra Vellocet
Extended Industries
#8 - 2013-01-02 05:34:36 UTC
CCP pays Goons,
Roo Gryphon
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
#9 - 2013-01-02 05:34:39 UTC
Obvious Cyno
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-02 05:35:20 UTC
I find Goonswarm representatives very respectful when they're scamming. Dont know about anyone else.
I guess in the private convo you were quite rude and possibly offensive towards him.
Ser Berus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-01-02 05:35:29 UTC
Posting in a thread.

Also, I'd just like to say it's a shame that the mentally ill seem to need to latch on to goonswarm these days to fuel their persecution complexes, and I just hope the OP gets the help that he or she clearly needs.Straight
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-02 05:35:59 UTC
Actually.... I'm a little concerned myself. I was contacted by a GoonWaffe "recruiter" about a month ago. I tend to hold the goons in high regard, but I had to really think about it because he was asking me for a lot (half a billion isk deposit, etc). I got a recruitment code thingy, and haven't heard back from them. I do believe that we have been scammed.... but that's EVE, isn't it? Move on, get new stuff, get over it. I'd like to hear from some Goon leadership next time if they want me to join, and I won't be providing another "deposit" even if it means I don't get in. In the meantime, I'll just stick with an NPC corp, and do my own thing. If I get interested enough, I'll probably start my own. I have the name of the recruiter, and I fully intend to get my revenge when the opportunity arises. That is, of course, if this isn't just a very long wait for the application to process. I'm still waiting to see. Going to give them until the end of January at the latest.

If any forum Goons read this, I would actually really like to join.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-02 05:36:05 UTC
Selyra Lin wrote:
I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.

If you got a warning from a GM about harsh language, then you no doubt used harsh language. Goons often petition such events to generate extra tears, though it's rare that we get confirmation that it worked.


Selyra Lin wrote:
Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.

So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court?


No, for several reasons, the easiest of which being that I virtually guarantee that La Nariz never told you to buy PLEX to give to him (or to sell to give money to him) and that you did it on your own volition.

Plus, unlike that other supposed case, scamming isn't against the EULA in Eve anyway.


I will now withdraw and munch some popcorn until the thread is locked for posting rumors.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Rothana Haldane
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-01-02 05:36:10 UTC
Of course We pay CCP, I pay 14.99 a month. don't you?
Zain Andreas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2013-01-02 05:36:16 UTC
Sorry about the misunderstanding, send me a deposit of 500m isk and I can get your application going again and retreive your stuff.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#16 - 2013-01-02 05:36:37 UTC
They don't pay CCP any more than the rest of us do. They just third party meta their numbers and act as an off site force. For some reason CCP think Goons do EVE a favor with the way they conduct and project EVE to people who don't play it even though their own website is proof otherwise. Less than 1% of SA forums play EVE and I doubt they retain even half of that 1%.

No, Goons don't pay CCP. They treat them like a tool and why CCP continue to bend over is beyond me.
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-01-02 05:36:52 UTC
You should phone the police and tell them someone stole your internet spaceships.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-01-02 05:37:00 UTC
Tector wrote:
The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over.


I wish I'd read that first. Did you get my in game mail?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-02 05:37:02 UTC
Selyra Lin wrote:
Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. I try to talk to every possible person in Goon that I can think of and tell them about this and tell all tell me to **** off. Tried to talk to Tector, La Nariz, and a few more.

All I get from La Nariz is a mail saying he has eyes in all over Eve and knows what is going on. Sad part is, he was in the convo with me and the recruiter scammer talking about some capital program they never had.

Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp. I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.

So they are allowed to do whatever they please and say whatever they want and nothing happens, but when someone laughs at them for trying to scam the same person twice I get warned?

Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.

So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court?


I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to you. We are an honourable space alliance that does not condone nor intentionally harbour scammers. This is clearly the work of a spy & he must be found & expelled immediately. Send me a mail with the scammer name attached & 500mil. I will ensure that your assets & isk are returned & have the spy expelled.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-02 05:37:12 UTC
Steven Seaga1 wrote:
INB4 Rumor thread


How so? We do pay CCP - same way you do, actually!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

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