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of bounty, crimewatch and killrights

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PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-01-01 18:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: PO3T
Black Dawn Rising is a bounty hunting & crimewatch corporation. We are a bunch of dedicated pilots who like to PvP, highly motivated to bring tears to those who really deserve it and expirienced in what we do. We have diplomatic relations with others who share our profession. In order to increase our activity we need your help. We need your Killrights.

Why NOT make a Killright available to public:
-Your opponent might just kill himself by using an alt - hence the KR would be "wasted"
-You will not know what price to ask for it - hence it will either be too expensive, not gettin used, or too cheap and you won't earn what you could have.

Why sell your killright to Black Dawn Rising:
-We put a lot of effort in what we do. We stake out your enemy and once we know what there is to know - we hit.
-It is our goal to maximise that loss inflicted on your enemy. A pod kill is highly desired Big smile We will not activate the KR for a T1 frigate or empty hauler.
-We have the numbers. As to my knowledge we are one of the bigger bounty hunting / crimewatch corporations out there.

The more time we have to execute the KR, the better.

Here a couple of reference kills:
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15727684
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15724954
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15660183
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15656971
(sorry - the redirect does not work somehow, just copy-paste)

How to proceed:
1. Send us an ingame mail containting the killmail (your loss) and the expiration date of your killmail.
2. We will evaluate the information and provide you with an offer (ISK) for the killmail within 48h. If there is no bounty on the targets head, we will ask you to place 10% of the Killrights price on your enemie's head - after all we are bounty hunters Blink
3. If you agree, make the killmail available to us. How can be read here
4. The killright will be activated once your enemy flies a shiny ship. We will unleash hell on your nemesis.

What exeptions are there:
-Global criminals - they can be shot anyway, hence we do not need/want to buy a Killright on them. You can send us their name anyway. We might send some people to lock down his system
-Low Sec/piracy - it is our goal to also be able to lock down low sec system, and break down gate gamps. Kills on professional pirates would be as juicy, maybe even more, then High sec misfits. But since our numbers aren't high enough for that, these killrights are nothing for us yet.

Why we are doing this / what is there to be gained:
-We do our profession primarly for PvP.
-To bring some "justice" is a nice addition to being able to PvP. Our lasers will hit those who deserve it.
-We to it for profit. We do not want to kill a ship that is barely worth being flown. We want your enemies shiniest ship to burn. And sell the loot of course Cool

We cannot avoid you being blown up. We cannot bring back your ship or modules. We cannot even give you all the ISK that you would need to make up for the losses and the humiliation.
But even if we can't succeed in the above - we sure as hell do our best to balance out the losses.
If we, and those alike us do our work good, we actually might even succeed in making high sec, again high sec.
Help us to achive this task. Help us to help you.

Detail on who to contact can be read in our corp description.
Count of MonteCylon
Anti-Pirate Enforcement
#2 - 2013-01-02 00:22:39 UTC
Let us know if this is working out for you since bounty hunting seems like a really difficult occupation to get involved in.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -- Ephesians 6:12

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#3 - 2013-01-02 15:36:35 UTC
Wouldn't it be easier to just send an alt pod in to low sec to look for part timer fleets then annoy the hell out of them until ya get podded?
PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-01-02 18:32:24 UTC
Well hopefully people do get smarter (for their sake). Cuz everyone should have realized that its a big nono to pod someone in low sec, unless you like the door to high sec being closed in front of your nose for the next 30 days.

As to the question about the success of bounty hunting.
Crimewatch does work. Our killboard looks a bit like a KB of a NCP 0.0 corp... with the minor difference that it has tons of thrasher kills, with some nice kills inbetween.
The juiciy kills, those we get from Killrights, are dropping in. The problem is its mostly still public Killrights.
Those Killrights are sometimes put to good use, but most of the time they're just wasted.

The system I've set up provides that I invest a lot of my time into research (locator agent, Killboard checking ect), then the guys still have to log in once in a while (though I wouldn't mind, them logging off for the time being - just to avoid us).
I do admit it has its flaws. but it does not completly fail.

We currently have 5 Killrights that were passed on to us. I will monitor and report about. It is my belief that this will bring some change to piracy, ganking and griefing.

Only time will show.
Xylorn Hasher
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-03 10:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Xylorn Hasher
Try to buy killrights on me.

List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims.
My current bounty is around 505m ISK.
Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer.

Looking foward to tear you apart.

All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana consumption.

PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-01-03 10:51:37 UTC
Xylorn Hasher wrote:
Try to buy killrights on me.

List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims.
My current bounty is around 505m ISK.
Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer.

Looking foward to tear you apart.


You are a good example of how it should not be done... placing 500m ISK on a character is pretty much useless, as the bounty pool will probably never depleat- unless of course you fly a really fancy ship.

Buying a killright on you is not helping as your are gcc flagged anyway, but good luck at this years election of the most sarcastic char... might place well this time Blink

Also I thank you for the self-promotion. I am aware that there are people gate camping 23/7. No need to remind me that. But let me assure you. Retritbution just started off. Give it some time, might look at it differently in a year or so.

Cya around m8.
Xylorn Hasher
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-01-03 12:01:36 UTC
PO3T wrote:
Xylorn Hasher wrote:
Try to buy killrights on me.

List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims.
My current bounty is around 505m ISK.
Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer.

Looking foward to tear you apart.


You are a good example of how it should not be done... placing 500m ISK on a character is pretty much useless, as the bounty pool will probably never depleat- unless of course you fly a really fancy ship.

Buying a killright on you is not helping as your are gcc flagged anyway, but good luck at this years election of the most sarcastic char... might place well this time Blink

Also I thank you for the self-promotion. I am aware that there are people gate camping 23/7. No need to remind me that. But let me assure you. Retritbution just started off. Give it some time, might look at it differently in a year or so.

Cya around m8.


I dont care if someone puts his hard earned ISKies as a bounty on my head all because he lost his Falcon:

Merry ChristmasFrom: Gray DeathStalker
To: Telefishopolis, L00K 0UT, Xylorn Hasher

1.3 bil for you guys enjoy,enjoy,enjoy

or just have too much ISKies. Also if you looked at my KB most kills are done solo, except for Thanatos kill hrhrhrhr




All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana consumption.

CrackhoBiatch
The Corporation Incorporated
#8 - 2013-01-03 15:09:59 UTC  |  Edited by: CrackhoBiatch
Xylorn Hasher wrote:
PO3T wrote:
Xylorn Hasher wrote:
Try to buy killrights on me.

List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims.
My current bounty is around 505m ISK.
Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer.

Looking foward to tear you apart.


You are a good example of how it should not be done... placing 500m ISK on a character is pretty much useless, as the bounty pool will probably never depleat- unless of course you fly a really fancy ship.

Buying a killright on you is not helping as your are gcc flagged anyway, but good luck at this years election of the most sarcastic char... might place well this time Blink

Also I thank you for the self-promotion. I am aware that there are people gate camping 23/7. No need to remind me that. But let me assure you. Retritbution just started off. Give it some time, might look at it differently in a year or so.

Cya around m8.


I dont care if someone puts his hard earned ISKies as a bounty on my head all because he lost his Falcon:

Merry ChristmasFrom: Gray DeathStalker
To: Telefishopolis, L00K 0UT, Xylorn Hasher

1.3 bil for you guys enjoy,enjoy,enjoy

or just have too much ISKies. Also if you looked at my KB most kills are done solo, except for Thanatos kill hrhrhrhr






Dont know who you are, dont care either, but i need to correct you a bit so sorry about that.
Most of your kills are most definately NOT solo kills according to your kb.

Edit: looked a bit more into it and it seems all your solo kills that were actually solo kills are on industrials and pods.
This kinda makes your the wanker of the week and you should stop posting here!
PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-01-03 15:47:51 UTC  |  Edited by: PO3T
I might have to clarify some things here. This post was not inteded to tell the community how good I or my corp is.
Its simply a way to inform the bears out there that we are here. We are here in case
a. you guys have a KR you want to see being used in a good way
b. you want to get into this business

Our corp is by all means not the best PvP corp in Eve. But its a good way to get into PvP. We do operate out of High sec (yes I know the reactions to that). But we are a safe haven for bears who want to get a safe approach to pvp, instead of being thrown into the flames. And my bears to get their kills. The good ones up to 10 kills a day, without losing any ships.

The system we work by, has not been tested yet - after all Retribution has been released a month ago. I want to test it, but for I need killmails.

So please, I wont send you my bears (yet)... all your challanges are absolutely missplaced here Blink
Once my guys decide they want do commit mass **** on you, I will gladly show them the way to your system Big smile
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#10 - 2013-01-04 05:59:42 UTC
nice work and great response timing with the new mechanics, goodluck

no more games... it's real this time!!!

PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-01-20 17:44:29 UTC
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
Let us know if this is working out for you since bounty hunting seems like a really difficult occupation to get involved in.


Since I was still owing you an answer... The profession still seems to work.
The juicy kills are still rolling in. And although we got wardecced by a merc alliance (outnumbert 2.5 to 1) our losses were minimal.

Most recent example of kills using the crimewatch system:

http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15876840

Our numbers have suffered a bit under the wardec, but people are joining and the idea might actually work out.
I do admit: the number of kills we get that way might lower in the near future. But alternative / parallel activities are being set up as well.
By now also other corps have been set up - using the same mechanics.

A couple of general flaws with the Killright / crimewatch system:
-Killrights on -10.0 sec stat guys = worthless
-People using the killright mechanics to scam (put a killright for double the ships value public - using an alt)
-Station baiting (of course that was to expect ^^)
-Killrights are not as visible as they shold be

Difficulties with "our" way of using the system:
-personal user of Killrights works, its just a hell lot of work. And in order to get the guys we'd prolly need masses of KR. So best was is probably to ask for advice (price of KR) then make it public. This increases the probablity of getting the the KR used, and keeps the changes of mis-use low

The system works more or less. Its (as so often) about the people using it, and how, that makes the difference.
HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#12 - 2013-01-20 20:30:51 UTC
I have kill rights. Come get me. I like shooting aqua blue ducks.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.

PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-01-20 20:41:57 UTC
Man I was hoping I'd make it through a page without having holy here spamming my posts.
Get a hobby m8. Or a life.
We know you have killrights on you man... you've been spamming that all over the forum for the past month.

So if this is what you wanna hear: you are a hero. And in every way better then the rest of us. Now pls do something useful, I dunno, like podding yourself. But pls stop the useless bumping.
HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#14 - 2013-01-20 21:15:55 UTC
Aqua blue ducks in a barrel.

Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better.

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#15 - 2013-01-20 23:05:43 UTC
Bounty hunting... Well, I haven't seen it work yet. If you can make it work effectively that would be a good thing, although I can't really see it happening. Good luck trying though!

Someone.

Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-21 11:26:50 UTC
I have tons of killrights against me.

Come and get some. Twisted

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2013-01-21 11:50:05 UTC
I'll sell you killrights on me for 30 mill a pop ? ^^

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

PO3T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-01-21 15:45:32 UTC
Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:
Bounty hunting... Well, I haven't seen it work yet. If you can make it work effectively that would be a good thing, although I can't really see it happening. Good luck trying though!


Just check some of the kills. Being just moderatly active this month I've make 100 kills. This by simply sitting on a gate Cool
I don't know, but to me this looks like "working mechanics". Or let me ask: What is "work effectively" for you? 500 Kills a month? I guess that depends on anyones activity level =)
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-01-21 16:17:12 UTC
Xylorn Hasher wrote:
Try to buy killrights on me.

List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims.
My current bounty is around 505m ISK.
Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer.

Looking foward to tear you apart.


Your throbbing massive e-peen is making me wet.

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
#20 - 2013-01-21 16:29:50 UTC
do you accept just plain kill contracts without a killright? like if we asked you how much for you to hunt down a target and pod them would you do it for a set price or must there be a bounty on there heads?
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