Skill Discussions

Iam 25 Days from BC V, should i train this, or will the update happen before that? :)

…because the four million threads on the topic — most of them still on page one — weren't enough.

No, you should probably wait.

I'll get me some popcorn in RL right before the patch with the racial skill split hits.

So here's a question.

So far with all of the ship rebalances we've had, have there been ANY that were dropped in without any warning? So far I recall each balance patch being preceded by a final dev blog about it. Then a notice that the updated ships will be on the test server. then some time letting final testing play out in our hands. Then the patch.

But I am getting old, and the memory is the first to go.

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18 hours left for BC5

Less than 23 days for it on the 3rd toon on the same account... because sometimes same account alts are useful, and I don't want to train 4x longer later.

I'm assuming its fine until I hear otherwise

I have 27 days to BCV, just started it up about an hour ago. I don't need anything else in a hurry and if I did I can always pause the training. I decided not to remap and only have +2s in so this is very inefficient of me :(

Edit: Start training it now, pause it if you run into something you want sooner. When they announce the changes as incoming I would assume they will give somewhere in the realms of 90days notice anyway since it will attached to an expansion rather as a update.

I wouldn't listen to this guy if I were you. They announced it was incoming early 2013, and the next expansion is in summer. Also they announced that you should strongly consider BC V when picking your next skill back in early December.

train it. like 6 months ago.

Wait for what? The racial skill updates this summer or even next winter?(maybe never)...pshhh...

I remember when people used to say train BC V for what it does beneficially for the ship...imo it is equal to a recon V or HAC V train in terms of sheer benefit it gives the ship...

Not because I want extra SP when the time comes...oh well..

All of this is assuming you fly BC regularly..don't train it just to have it...but if you fly it daily then no questions the reason to train is for the benefits of the skill...not what CCP is doing.

He's talking about what happens if a person is only partly trained into a given level of the skill that gets split. Of course he would get Racial Destroyer IV x4 (assuming he had the prereqs to sit in all four races destroyers and already had Dessie IV completely trained).

The question is what happens if he is 99% of the way done on Dessie V when the cutover happens. CCP's promise was that he can fly all dessies at Dessie IV after the patch, just like he could before the patch. Since he hasn't finished Dessie V, and therefore can't fly any destroyer at level V yet, he's only entitled to have the skill cloned at level IV, not level V. The problem is that it's not fair, or consistent with prior changes, to just trash the days or weeks of SP he has put into the partly completed Dessie V. At the same time, it's also arguably not fair, or consistent with CCP's promises about the change, to clone a partly trained level V skill into four partly trained racial level V skills (it might also be hard for them to do, for some obscure technical reason or another).

The obvious (and correct) solution is to refund the SP for the partly trained level ONLY, and to clone the fully trained levels as already stated. This means that only those who actually finish Dessie V / BC V get the full benefit of the 4x clone and wind up with Racial Dessie V x4. But it also means that those who got 99% of the way there aren't robbed of weeks worth of training time, and can at least apply that SP they have earned either to one Racial Dessie V train, or to whatever else they want.