Missions & Complexes

This ^^

I was told by a GM that holding sites open after completion was likely to result in a ban. At the time the GM resorted to resetting the sites while I was in them, in order to boot me out of the site. Holding sites open was originally a "salt the Earth" tactic we were using against ISN, who were persistently contesting the sites we were running despite the availability of other sites that they were perfectly capable of running.

At the time they spent an hour in local complaining that we were being childish.

So a hint: don't tell the GM that the site is being interdicted. Tell the GM that the site is bugged and isn't resetting properly. If you're lucky you'll get a noob GM who will dutifully reset the site for you.

Wow at least try to be a little informed about a subject before posting a response. Incursions exist in a constellation, each constellation gets one system assigned for HQ’s (Headquarters sites) one system sometimes two for AS (Assaults) and usually two or three for VG’s (Vanguards) so now that you know the simplest of facts concerning Incursions I am sure you will post some enlightened comment availing us all to your profound wisdom and experience concerning this problem.

If you don't know what you talking about, try to do the smart thing and read more than the first and last post.

Ummm. Because you were?

Competing for sites is in the spirit of EVE. Holding sites open with noobships (or any other ships for that matter) is not. CCP makes hi-sec VERY safe and relying on that safety to keep others from completing content is not in the spirit of the game whatsoever.

Yeah you only need to sit on the gate to hold it open.

No response from CCP yet and almost 10 pages..?

Most amusing are GM replies that go "post on forums so devs know about it". Troll GMs, troll CCP, troll EVE.

First line, ok. The rest? I don't think you're even close. All cargo/freighter ganks will be always carried out to assume maximum tank anyway, they just wont kill anything that has less then "X" ISK in cargo, and no escort can stop a gank, its all over in seconds, which shows there is a lot of things players can do little about, all because of klunky mechanics from the old days.

I don't find it logical that my name gets broadcast to everyone in system so they can come find me even though I'm cloaked, or that the only option you have when you arrive on the other side of a gate and see 20 Tornados is basically "I hope I can warp fast enough", cause instalock-alpha-death is the only other option. Funny no one suggests that the gates should warp us in a 1k-10k random bubble or similar, which would make much more sense.

A lot of people seem perfectly happy when EVE mechanics like swapping ships in Orca's (now closed) allowed them to make tons of ISK killing mission runners by twisting aggression mechanics, but when someone stops the ISK faucets it's the end of the world.

I really don't get it. I see tons of stuff like this happening constantly, but when It allows more killmails it's all fine.

why you believe they will react that soon ? Maybe if we tell goons to get involved into high sec incursions they will fix it asap (sorry goonies couldnt resist the troll inside me )

now i got it.
sites should only respond to battleships.
so only a pilot in a battleship will be able to hold up a site.

There is, in my mind, a great difference between a FW site and an Incursion site. FW sites are governed by the faction warfare system, which is player driven on the part of both factions.
Incursion sites, however, are capsuleers versus a madman named Sansha Kuvakei. I say madman because based on his behavior he is insane. I explained this viewpoint to CCP in a petition which I'd like to post here for consideration:

"CCP,
I believe that Sansha Kuvakei is insane. He believes himself to be the savior of the universe, a clear Messionic complex. In each type of site, the fleets he uses are virtually identical in each site that spawns, which indicates an obsessive-compulsive disorder as well. The fact that he will throw site after site at us, allowing us to farm them, is perfectly in line with the insanity of a man who believes he knows the best way to do everything and believes that he cannot lose.
What is not in line with his insanity is the ability of a single ship in a site preventing another site from spawning. Sansha Kuvakei will not let a fleet of capsuleers stop his operations in a system, evidenced by the way sites will respawn for days until either he withdraws his incursion by his own choice, or his mothership is destroyed preventing him from conducting further operations in that system.
I do not believe that Sansha Kuvakei would allow a ship, or even a fleet of ships, in a completed site to stop him from spawning a new site in that system. I believe he would, in fact, ignore the fact that he "lost" the site owing to his meglomania and would spawn a new site on the same schedule regardless of what is left behind in a completed site.
For this reason, I ask for a change in the mechanics of incursion site spawn. Once the site is completed and despawned, I ask that a new site spawn on the same schedule regardless of anything left behind in the old site. I believe this would better fit the behavior of the madman we know as Sansha Kuvakei."

Thoughts?