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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#181 - 2011-10-09 22:28:04 UTC
People crying about getting griefed and hiding in high sec are maliciously interfering in my game experience.

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Commander Spurty
#182 - 2011-10-09 22:38:24 UTC
There is nothing stopping you from starting a 16,000 man alliance called green swarm to perma war dec goons and sit in local on all their entry routes from null to Jita popping them

Sounds like it may produce tears

Clearly it's not hard work recruiting plonkers to bolster your numbers

Future is what you make of it pod pilot

FYI I often read SA forums, would never consider them less than a few very talented people with a couple of hundred sheep that'll laugh at anything that's been photo shopped a bit

Don't have nightmares about them, they (mostly, but some don't care about what anyone says) work within the limits of the game world.

So in conclusion Op, your move!

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
Doomheim
#183 - 2011-10-09 22:53:02 UTC
Kitty McKitty wrote:
People crying about getting griefed and hiding in high sec are maliciously interfering in my game experience.

Kitty, you look like the BF 3 slugsoldier. Lol
s4c
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2011-10-09 22:55:22 UTC  |  Edited by: s4c
Lets turn this around, all you freighter, exhumer pilots, grab a fast frig, equip with big guns and a cloak and go sit in goonswarm & co systems of deklein, cloud ring, pure blind, etc, deny their miners the simple pleasures of mining with their bots, day in day out.

Watch their upgraded systems quickly dwindle down from industry/military 5, deny sanctums and ABC ores, this is the only way to combat this.

F**k goons!

PS.. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/2R-CRW Is a good place to start scary bear and his 20 or so bots will be docked up for good Twisted
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#185 - 2011-10-09 23:17:21 UTC
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:
Kitty McKitty wrote:
People crying about getting griefed and hiding in high sec are maliciously interfering in my game experience.

Kitty, you look like the BF 3 slugsoldier. Lol


It beats being called a Giraffe for the eleventybillionth time :P

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Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2011-10-10 00:17:05 UTC
Looks more like the aliens from Close Encounters of the Third Kind but with hair. Ugh

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EVE Stig
Doomheim
#187 - 2011-10-10 00:20:47 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Stig
The thing about the griefing rules is there are no griefing rules.

The Biomassing is an exploit thing cant even be enforced cause there arent enough GMs to do it lol

s4c wrote:
Lets turn this around, all you freighter, exhumer pilots, grab a fast frig, equip with big guns and a cloak and go sit in goonswarm & co systems of deklein, cloud ring, pure blind, etc, deny their miners the simple pleasures of mining with their bots, day in day out.

Watch their upgraded systems quickly dwindle down from industry/military 5, deny sanctums and ABC ores, this is the only way to combat this.

F**k goons!

PS.. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/2R-CRW Is a good place to start scary bear and his 20 or so bots will be docked up for good Twisted


youre a goon alt fishing for ppl to kill arent you?

For those tear producing mackinaw pilots out there that think CCP will step in and save you or step in an savethe game before Goond/DRF have all of 0.0 stagnated should realize

Spurty wrote:


Don't have nightmares about them, they (mostly, but some don't care about what anyone says) work within the limits of the game world.


Theyre NOT breaking the rules. I think itd be a bigger bad precident for them to interveine in on people NOT breaking the rules than not.

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#188 - 2011-10-10 00:41:14 UTC
there were people in sensor-boosted machs shooting my thrashers while I was popping pods

mods? ban those asshats

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#189 - 2011-10-10 00:44:46 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:
Theyre NOT breaking the rules. I think itd be a bigger bad precident for them to interveine in on people NOT breaking the rules than not.

That fact was established a long time ago and is not in dispute. The quessie I asked is whether it should be "considered" as needing addressing.

It makes me have a little giggle when people won't even entertain the thought of changing something that is so status quo let alone discuss it.

The very same people who say Eve is "stagnating".......

Here's a WILD, CRAZY, STUPID, MAD, IDIOTIC thought..... How about remove any PvP in empire totally......

First reaction, all the pvp'ers will move to low and/or 0.0, hundreds of new targets and lotz of gudfites.

And all the carebears can carebear.....

TWO, yes, count TWO happy parties......

Whoa. Am I mad???????

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Hobogear
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#190 - 2011-10-10 00:45:12 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
So CCP, please explain...

Under griefing rules/policy

Quote:
At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.


Current "fun" being enjoyed by a limited number of 0.0 alliances on empire players is consistently and maliciously interfering with the game experience for others.

Source: http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336

Is the "at our discretion" statement the mitigating factor?



You are a terrible little carebear.
Hobogear
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2011-10-10 00:47:05 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
EVE Stig wrote:
Theyre NOT breaking the rules. I think itd be a bigger bad precident for them to interveine in on people NOT breaking the rules than not.

That fact was established a long time ago and is not in dispute. The quessie I asked is whether it should be "considered" as needing addressing.

It makes me have a little giggle when people won't even entertain the thought of changing something that is so status quo let alone discuss it.

The very same people who say Eve is "stagnating".......

Here's a WILD, CRAZY, STUPID, MAD, IDIOTIC thought..... How about remove any PvP in empire totally......

First reaction, all the pvp'ers will move to low and/or 0.0, hundreds of new targets and lotz of gudfites.

And all the carebears can carebear.....

TWO, yes, count TWO happy parties......

Whoa. Am I mad???????



Lol you like the thought of logging off to save your ship so much. Maybe you should have used that. I personally am glad yours ship was blown to bits.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#192 - 2011-10-10 00:48:20 UTC
Jovan Geldon wrote:
Quote:
At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.


Emphasis mine. Economic warfare is still warfare; it's only malicious if you are gaining literally nothing from it.


So if you were beaten and raped you would consider it malicious, but if you were beaten raped and robbed it would not be. Nice.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#193 - 2011-10-10 00:49:36 UTC
People posting carebear hug tiems nonsense on the forums with the use of alts is griefing me as I cannot go in game and destroy them. This whole alt posting thing needs a rethink as it allows people to say what they like with no repercussions.

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EVE Stig
Doomheim
#194 - 2011-10-10 00:49:41 UTC  |  Edited by: EVE Stig
The Apostle wrote:
EVE Stig wrote:
Theyre NOT breaking the rules. I think itd be a bigger bad precident for them to interveine in on people NOT breaking the rules than not.

That fact was established a long time ago and is not in dispute. The quessie I asked is whether it should be "considered" as needing addressing.

It makes me have a little giggle when people won't even entertain the thought of changing something that is so status quo let alone discuss it.

The very same people who say Eve is "stagnating".......

Here's a WILD, CRAZY, STUPID, MAD, IDIOTIC thought..... How about remove any PvP in empire totally......

First reaction, all the pvp'ers will move to low and/or 0.0, hundreds of new targets and lotz of gudfites.

And all the carebears can carebear.....

TWO, yes, count TWO happy parties......

Whoa. Am I mad???????


Yeah, u definately mad bro
Imo they should remove CONCORD and make the whole game open to PVP like 0.0
Including allowing the bigger ships in what used to be high sec. Just to get attacked if you have ****** faction standings
Also, I think that if you logoff in a fight to avoid combat your ship should self destruct while youre gone with the loss of all the stuff on it. also maybe flag you as globally killable for 15 mins. - mind you I dont even actively PVP. Im a PVE-er

You should have worked it harder though, you took off your mask too soon an showed the troll.

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Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#195 - 2011-10-10 00:51:32 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Jovan Geldon wrote:
Quote:
At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.


Emphasis mine. Economic warfare is still warfare; it's only malicious if you are gaining literally nothing from it.


So if you were beaten and raped you would consider it malicious, but if you were beaten raped and robbed it would not be. Nice.


You're funny, I'll kill you last
The Apostle
Doomheim
#196 - 2011-10-10 01:15:38 UTC
Hobogear wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
EVE Stig wrote:
Theyre NOT breaking the rules. I think itd be a bigger bad precident for them to interveine in on people NOT breaking the rules than not.

That fact was established a long time ago and is not in dispute. The quessie I asked is whether it should be "considered" as needing addressing.

It makes me have a little giggle when people won't even entertain the thought of changing something that is so status quo let alone discuss it.

The very same people who say Eve is "stagnating".......

Here's a WILD, CRAZY, STUPID, MAD, IDIOTIC thought..... How about remove any PvP in empire totally......

First reaction, all the pvp'ers will move to low and/or 0.0, hundreds of new targets and lotz of gudfites.

And all the carebears can carebear.....

TWO, yes, count TWO happy parties......

Whoa. Am I mad???????



Lol you like the thought of logging off to save your ship so much. Maybe you should have used that. I personally am glad yours ship was blown to bits.

I have never lost a ship I didn't personally commit to a fight bro. Never.

Your summation of my motives is quite incorrect.

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Ruah Piskonit
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#197 - 2011-10-10 02:00:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ruah Piskonit
The Apostle wrote:
So CCP, please explain...

Under griefing rules/policy

Quote:
At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.


Current "fun" being enjoyed by a limited number of 0.0 alliances on empire players is consistently and maliciously interfering with the game experience for others.

Source: http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336

Is the "at our discretion" statement the mitigating factor?


greifing is player run quality control. Since obviously standards in eve has gone through the floor, maby its time to get some of the older folks to come back and kill everyone a few times to get over the fact that its a game.


I think the definition is when someone takes it from the game to RL - really ramps it up to a personal level in and out of game, harassing you verbally constantly in public and so on. . .things that are not game mechanic related or RP related. But I think you know that.

Why has someone been harassing you?
The Apostle
Doomheim
#198 - 2011-10-10 02:22:11 UTC
Ruah Piskonit wrote:
The Apostle wrote:
So CCP, please explain...

Under griefing rules/policy

Quote:
At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.


Current "fun" being enjoyed by a limited number of 0.0 alliances on empire players is consistently and maliciously interfering with the game experience for others.

Source: http://support.eveonline.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=336

Is the "at our discretion" statement the mitigating factor?


greifing is player run quality control. Since obviously standards in eve has gone through the floor, maby its time to get some of the older folks to come back and kill everyone a few times to get over the fact that its a game.


I think the definition is when someone takes it from the game to RL - really ramps it up to a personal level in and out of game, harassing you verbally constantly in public and so on. . .things that are not game mechanic related or RP related. But I think you know that.

Why has someone been harassing you?

Lol I wish. I'd LOVE to get my hands on some of these fools who shoot their mouth off knowing they will never have to REALLY PvP Twisted

But yeah. Good point. Seperation of game and RL can be difficult for some but griefing in Eve can occur without any RL linkage.

RL threats aren't griefing imho and should be met with an immediate and irrevocable banhammer.

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#199 - 2011-10-10 02:28:27 UTC
The Apostle's hood is griefing me.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#200 - 2011-10-10 02:30:04 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
The Apostle's hood is griefing me.

And your nose keep me awake at night.

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