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Is this game all about AFKing?

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Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-01-01 03:28:25 UTC
You seem to have selective reading if you can't take constructive criticism or at least read between the points you want to continually harp upon then you obviously aren't here to have any serious questions answered. Either read everything and ask for elaboration where you need it, or move on and save everyone the trouble of this thread












Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2013-01-01 03:30:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Giddie wrote:

Now excuse me while I go play some HoN (180,000 people online right now, fyi)[


you're excused, feel free to also enjoy your britney spears album (85 million records sold) and wwe entertainment (4.4 million viewers fyi) while choking down your big mac (over 99 billion sold)
Aria Ta'Rohk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-01-01 05:40:29 UTC
This is hilarious to read as OP is so incredibly stubborn and blind. People have given you so many suggestions. Try PvP, try exploration, try market manipulation, try suicide ganking, try hauling. DO SOMETHING FOR GOODNESS SAKE. Stop complaining that we are telling you to "just play in the sand box" when we are giving you valid and legitimate ideas. And "fyi," every time I log on I see at least 35k players on, on the same server.

I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears

Aria Ta'Rohk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-01-01 05:40:43 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Giddie wrote:

Now excuse me while I go play some HoN (180,000 people online right now, fyi)[


you're excused, feel free to also enjoy your britney spears album (85 million records sold) and wwe entertainment (4.4 million viewers fyi) while choking down your big mac (over 99 billion sold)

I love you Lol

I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears

Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-01-01 07:17:03 UTC
OP either troll or can't read.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-01-01 08:23:36 UTC
I loled........ he does lvl 1's
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#47 - 2013-01-01 08:46:25 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Vilnius Zar wrote:
He didn't like it, tried it several times and now writes long paragraphs of texts on how he doesn't like it, and you all go against it. It's ok if he doesn't like it, there's no law that says he has to. Move on.


Indeed.

But this is a New Citizen Questions & Answers forum

Not a "I don't like EVE and post my rage quit story" forum


That's my point :)


J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-01 10:47:27 UTC
Giddie wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Please give J'Poll and award for the most consecutive posts. OP, while you claim you don't want instant action, your words say otherwise. EVERYTHING in this game requires some form of waiting, but there are things to be done during that. Try exploring. Go buy a scanning frigate, train astrometrics to 2 (only an hour or so train), fit a probe launcher, and TRY IT OUT. Heck, if you really don't want to wait while playing, set up some long skills in the que, and go do something else in real life. This is just a game after all. Nobody is forcing you to stay if you don't like it.


Its funny how you still can't actually give me something to do in the game that doesn't involve mostly waiting aside from "it's a sandbox guys!!".

I always wondered why so many people said this game was a pretty version of excel, the more I dig into it the more I see why.

This isn't a game, it's just a pretty way for people with nothing better to do to troll those looking for a sci-fi fix.

Enjoy your bumper to bumper waits.


You are:

A.) A 12 year old kid.
B.) Someone living in a basement with no life.
C.) Someone who's IQ is less then the avg. peanut.
D.) All of the above.

Pick your choice.

Really, just cause YOU don't like the game doesn't mean the game is wrong. It means you are wrong for thinking EVE is a game you like. Stop whining...no wait, please go on, your tears fuel my spaceships.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#49 - 2013-01-01 10:53:12 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Giddie wrote:


Stupid? Nope


Answer is actually YES. Just your points are showing how stupid you are.

Giddie wrote:

Unwilling? Yes, I normally give games a solid 4-6 hours of play time before I decide if its worth my time or not to continue based on fun, obviously a bit more for MMOs. I've given EVE ten times that and still don't have a clue about this so called game.


You give EVE 4 hours while it's actually a game of long term goals and planning. You just proven answer number 1.

Giddie wrote:

So many arguments about how EVE doesn't "spoon feed you", yet every single person tells you to go read novels of blogs and websites to get information on the game.


You are going into the top class of stupidity now. Spoon fed and doing your own research isn't the same.

Spoon fed = game gives you exactly what you need, when you need it and tells you why you need it and how to use it.

Research = you have to find out what you need, why you actually need it and how to make best use of it.

Giddie wrote:

Sorry, but one of the core pillars behind good game design is accessibility. Likely the reason why there's only 29,000 people online world wide on EVE, sadly a large portion of those are likely sub accounts of the same person.


Your stupidity keeps amazing me in 1 single post.

EVE has more then 29.000 people, what you see at the log in screen are the people that are connected to the server AT THAT POINT. So it doesn't count those who have a real life (unlike you) or those that do sleep.

Weird that every single day I log in after college / work the server is having almost or over 35.000 people on it.

Giddie wrote:

Now excuse me while I go play some HoN (180,000 people online right now, fyi)


No.

1000 People.
79000 Whining teenagers
100000 Gold farming Chinese bots

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Aleczander G
Shadow Moses.
#50 - 2013-01-02 04:19:47 UTC
Eve is not an instant gratification game. You have to work for what you want. Then you will find you want something else and have to work towards that instead. You have to pick. Your choices matter. This isn't an achievement / gamer score based game. Do your research. Learn to fit your ship. Learn to fly. Learn to scan. Learn to shoot, and then learn why your fit sucks and why you got podded and start back at the beginning.

It took your high school 4 years to attempt to teach you all of the basic knowledge for being a productive member of society and that it takes time and effort to accomplish things in life but apparently you missed that lesson as well.

Do us all a favor and go back to your coddling, button mashing, linear mmo.

You will not be missed.
Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
#51 - 2013-01-02 11:21:44 UTC
HoN might be better for you for sure.

I hate MOBAs myself. Way too boring.
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-01-02 12:17:36 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Giddie wrote:

Now excuse me while I go play some HoN (180,000 people online right now, fyi)[


you're excused, feel free to also enjoy your britney spears album (85 million records sold) and wwe entertainment (4.4 million viewers fyi) while choking down your big mac (over 99 billion sold)
OP, do you consider holding the "move forward" key as an engaging action while walking your toon across a map in another game? then see the "click" to warp to the next gate as a repetitive stress injury relief courtesy from CCP.
You can encounter all kinds of quests givers or NPC to whack while travelling in other MMOs? there's the same thing in all systems, warp to a belt in systems below 0.8 or dock in the available stations to see if an agent is available to you.
Now if you can't figure why you can't see any fight while warping in a straight line between two spots at several millions of km/s, there's not much we or CCP can do to help you and if your corp really is settled in the ass-end of the cluster with absolutely no NPC or agents within 19j, I'm really curious to know where the heck they're settled.
Otherwise, almost fun trolling.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Bob Killan
Dzark Asylum
#53 - 2013-01-02 13:46:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bob Killan
Giddie wrote:
Not trying to come off like a jerk, just honestly don't understand how this is a "game"..... :/



Well you managed that for all of 1 post well done Sir.

Giddie wrote:
Trollololololololololol



I think we found you an engaging activity that gives YOU instant gratification. Don't bother with playing games just log on to the forums and troll. No waiting 'cause as soon as you post you can find another post to Troll and come back later to troll more here.

For some one who finds EVE to be the definition of Boredom, you're spending an aweful lot of time asking people for advice on how to make the game fun.

Well let me say this "dont fly something you cannot afford to lose" that way when you do lose you will not need to come in here with ya "I hate Eve its boring" garbage.

If your going..... go and be quick about it, If your raging than be honest about your issues there are plenty of helpful people in Eve that could help you to avoid losing you (*&% next time.
Jet Fuel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-01-02 14:34:09 UTC
I think most of the people who can't figure this game out are ones coming from MMOs like WoW where they are used to instant gratification. This is unlike any other MMO out there. It requires patience. This is probably one of the last old school MMOs...the ones that were so complex that they required a lot of thought and planning before you did anything. If you just want a game were you can jump in right away and start blasting away without any thought then this probably isn't for you.
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-01-02 14:48:43 UTC
Jet Fuel wrote:
I think most of the people who can't figure this game out are ones coming from MMOs like WoW where they are used to instant gratification. This is unlike any other MMO out there. It requires patience. This is probably one of the last old school MMOs...the ones that were so complex that they required a lot of thought and planning before you did anything. If you just want a game were you can jump in right away and start blasting away without any thought then this probably isn't for you.

I was going to ignore this thread and I was doing so well but you bring up some good thoughts and I suspect the OP is gone now.

Sometimes it is exactly as you postulate but I think there is a basic liking for space games or not. I would venture out onto a limb and guess that the OP is one of these. There's nothing wrong with not liking space games. Personally, I've -always- loved them. There is something about flying around in the vastness of space that appeals to me. But, for some, they see the emptiness and equate it with it being empty.

What I mean is this, I have no problems flying from warp gate to warp gate and enjoying that experience unto itself. But someone who doesn't like space games will see it as 'waiting' although they won't have any problems with running from warp-point-thingie to warp-point-thingie in a land based MMO which is basically the same thing in terms of time usage.

It's just a matter of perception and what one is comfortable with. Clearly the OP prefers to sit in a lobby waiting around for other people to connect to a game (which can take quite awhile) instead of doing the equivalent thing in space.

What's funny about EVE is that you CAN jump in right away and start blasting. The tutorials are all about doing just that. The mission system is exactly that. Scanning down anomalies is that. Faction warfare is that. Living in some regions of low sec or 0.0 is exactly that for PvP action. I regularly play half hour sessions in EVE and have a ton of fun doing so. But, at the end of the day, it all takes place in... space so that means traveling via warping instead of running along a road or flying through the air and, again, for some that just doesn't "click" with them.
Jet Fuel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-01-02 14:54:14 UTC
Fractal Muse wrote:

I was going to ignore this thread and I was doing so well but you bring up some good thoughts and I suspect the OP is gone now.

Sometimes it is exactly as you postulate but I think there is a basic liking for space games or not. I would venture out onto a limb and guess that the OP is one of these. There's nothing wrong with not liking space games. Personally, I've -always- loved them. There is something about flying around in the vastness of space that appeals to me. But, for some, they see the emptiness and equate it with it being empty.

What I mean is this, I have no problems flying from warp gate to warp gate and enjoying that experience unto itself. But someone who doesn't like space games will see it as 'waiting' although they won't have any problems with running from warp-point-thingie to warp-point-thingie in a land based MMO which is basically the same thing in terms of time usage.

It's just a matter of perception and what one is comfortable with. Clearly the OP prefers to sit in a lobby waiting around for other people to connect to a game (which can take quite awhile) instead of doing the equivalent thing in space.

What's funny about EVE is that you CAN jump in right away and start blasting. The tutorials are all about doing just that. The mission system is exactly that. Scanning down anomalies is that. Faction warfare is that. Living in some regions of low sec or 0.0 is exactly that for PvP action. I regularly play half hour sessions in EVE and have a ton of fun doing so. But, at the end of the day, it all takes place in... space so that means traveling via warping instead of running along a road or flying through the air and, again, for some that just doesn't "click" with them.


Sci-fi MMOs are few and far between. So that aspect alone is going to keep people here. And its true some things in this game are easier done then others. But truth is if you come to this game expecting Warcraft in Space then you're going to be disappointed. No sense sugar coating it. This is a complicated game and if the person isn't willing to invest in it then they probably shouldn't waste their time.
Keno Skir
#57 - 2013-01-02 15:37:47 UTC
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
the most non-afk action in eve is pvp

but pvp mechanics in eve is not very good compared to pvp games - because you kinda lock and shoot,no aiming,no expert manouvering except keeping your velocity,its kinda like strategy game not a pvp game

and thats if you can get into fights in the first place Roll


Strategical PvP is still PvP man, come on. It's just not the PvP you personally want.

As for OP, EvE is a much deeper game than Just Cause 2. If you dont have months and years to give it, go play Sims3 :)
Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-01-02 16:21:08 UTC
WoW often involved 10 minutes at a time taking the flight path. And it used to be much worse, now the game gives you the flight path once you hit the level. When I started playing WoW, getting to Winterspring involved corpse-running uphill, in the snow, both ways!

At any rate, if what turns you on about a game is playing whack-a-mole with ability spam, twitching the trigger every time something drifts across your crosshairs, or hokey pokey with fire on the ground, Eve probably isn't for you. And some nights it isn't for me, which is why I have other games on my drive.
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#59 - 2013-01-02 16:37:46 UTC
OP really shouldn't do mining or missions.
Brinxter
Bite Me inc
#60 - 2013-01-03 00:24:04 UTC
Its kind of funny, most of the people that took the time to reply here went through almost exactly the same experience.
And although similar, everyone did something different, they wrote their own story.

And just as you, i had a time where i had no clue what to do.
I learned how to use probes, and did some exploration, after that, i decided to jump into one of bazillions of whs i found.
Currently im part of a group of people who enjoy the hell out of WHs, the amount of isk you can make, and lose is mind blowing.
Also, yes, sometimes you sit around for hours, watching time tick by, only to get a text 15 mins after you went to bed that theres action.
Still, i wouldnt change it for anything.

My advice?
Train probes, take a cheap ship, and an empty clone, and find a wh. (class 1)
Run a combat site in it, and try not to get ganked :)