EVE General Discussion

Y'know you're going to hate to hear this but... Star Trek Online has a built-in mission generator that let's players make their own missions to share with the community. One of the features of this is the way it handles enemy spawns: They can be randomized. Meaning if you place a spawn in a mission it can be set to produce a variable number of ships within a set bracket. It might do lots of little cannon fodder ships, or it might do a fewer number of more elite AI type ships.

That's what missions in EvE need. Instead of fixed, predictable & linear spawns it simply needs randomized spawn thingies. It might dump out four frigates... or two cruisers... or just one cruiser with better AI and EWAR. That high level spawn could be just one top level battleship with every AI gimmick in the book, or end up spewing out a horde of over twenty cheap, low AI frigates.

You know what else they can do? More mission variety. I don't mean more of the same stuff, I mean actual variety. There are only three type of mission agents: Shoot stuff, mine stuff, and haul stuff. What about exploration missions? A mission that spawns some random radar/gravimetric/etc site into the system and you have to scan it down & recover stuff from the site. Or a industry mission where you have to deliver a certain number of finished goods to the mission agent? Hint: Star Wars Galaxies did in deed have Explorer and Artisan missions - this is not a new idea.

The other thing that they should be doing, since they claim they want PvE to be more like PvP, is rebalancing the existing missions to actually reflect that. Meaning that overall ship numbers need to be reduced and their AI raised. NPC ships should be redone to truly mirror player ships. Instead of nerfing player drones they should have given NPC drone hulls the ability to use drones themselves. Likewise, NPCs ships need to get rid of the unlimited ammo & capacitor so that energy drain attacks can actually affect them. Instead of arbitrary damage & resists have the different NPCs use the exact same ship templates that play ships have. Loot drops would no longer be so utterly random, by the way - they can be done the exact same rules as player ships.

So what you would see at the end of the day with a PvE mission done in true PvP style is you versus maybe only six enemies, tops, but each of them would have the full range of it's AI potential: EWAR, drones, remote repairing allies, etc. And even though the overall bounties would be going down (fewer ships = fewer bounties) the loot drops would be increasing to compensate since, oh yeah, those NPC ships are now following the exact same rules as player ships and dropping loot based off what they are actually carrying and using themselves.

In other words, PvE enemy ships should be completely identical to player ships. Same hulls, same modules, same rules. Just with CCP made AI controlling them. That's it.

You want to bridge the gap between PvE and PvP? There you go.

I would do it this way: in 1.0, 0.9, and 0.8 make them be level 1 equivalent, with its frigates, in 0.7 i would make the equivalent with level 2, with much more frigs and a couple cruisers, then 0.6 pair them to level 3 mission, there could be less frigs than 0.7 but a few more cruisers and A battleship, and 0.5 make them level 4 equivalent, you know, some neuting, some point and tackle and a good dps output.

Then about escalations, if ppl are doing Anomalies in high is because they want to feel safe, you all know this and many of you might agree, there is no need for any mechanic to pull them down to low or null or make them do a peregrination from one system to many others and lose an entire afternoon waiting to get a cool faction mod for just a 7th crate or whatever.
My opinion about escalations is that if it was earned in highsec, it must stay in highsec, however, the difficult must be really increased, they shouldn't be soloable, 2 bs or a bs plus logi should be mandatory, and reward should be equivalent to missions too, but keep the change of getting an officer spawn as it is, but not make ppl go to low or jump through 10 systems...

if you want the money, you take the risk, if not, stay safe and poor.

no no no

i want to stay safe and rich...you go,be a doll and risk your life for me

Newsflash: only frigs? in anomalies in highsec? seriously? am i a frig pilot with 2m sp?


Because is the only thing ccp offers about anomalies in highsec....



PERIOD

While I agree the Missions are boring and should be spiced up, making them more difficult is not always the best answer.

More fighting in a mission is just that more fighting.
The first thing I thought of to spice them up would be a puzzle of some sort.
but how do you put a random puzzle in a space mission ?

I am not sure, but something to make you think and that is completely random would be a lot more interesting then killing 10 more BS's in a mission.

And besides random is a #$%*& for botters to code against

A post about buffing PvE in my EVE?

+1 Like for the OP, but only because there's no "+1 balls" option.

Heres the thing, im not poor, at least under my opinion, i am very comfortable on my 1b cushion u see? and if i want more i do more incursions, the thing is, to get all that money i dont only wanna shoot sanshas, i wanna shoot guristas and angels and bla bla, and i also want to have the same profit one can have with level 4s but in anomalies, why? because it makes eve more fun, the variety, yes, but in highsec

On the contrary of what your small mind allows you to conceive, i dont wanna have the same money you do in null, i dont even wanna know how much you do, say one day youre lucky and get 16b, good for you, that wouldnt make any sense in high sec....

Dont you see? this lack of variety im talking about also affects you guys who live in null...

As i said, typical high sec shortsightedness.

You're bored so you want ccp to make the game more fun for you rather than YOU accepting some risk of losing pixels and going where things ARE more fun.

Who cares if boosting high sec anomalies/explortation would screw up an already screwed up game balance? No, "whats important is CCP should make the game more fun for me while protecting me from harm with High Sec". /sarcasm