Crime & Punishment

How are implants different from mods?

Besides, most Knights do have cheap damage-boosting implants.

The problem seems to be that every opponent of the New Order, despite their sabre rattling, desperately wants someone else to do the heavy lifting in shooting us, hiring mercs against us, or generally interfering with us. Nobody seems willing to spend the time and ISK to do it themselves.


You can't blame us for trying to get the most out of our investments. Shareholders demand results - and we intend to deliver! By my count, we've reached on the order of 135 billion destroyed since this project began in early December. As for profitability - we generally don't go out of our way to loot+salvage wrecks. I haven't done the calculations on expected returns for a gank, but one should consider the probability of receiving Tech2 salvage from exhumer wrecks. Still, killing the occasional deadspace-fitted miner is always nice.


We are more than happy to educate miners in gank defense and bump avoidance, but so few of them seem willing to learn - even after our demonstrations. Remember, purchasing a permit entitles you to a year of mining *and* evening classes in Highsec Miner Safety!
A miner has to make his own decision on whether to trade in his Mackinaw for a Skiff.


Again - discerning investors demand results! We are proud to deliver in two ways:
1) ISK destroyed through podkills
2) Miner outrage resulting from podkills
We make an effort to get podkills whenever we can - ultimately, the miner determines whether or not we're successful.

Well in a way they are, they are spending their own time to earn the isk which they spend to pay for the mercenaries.

"Shareholders demand results - and we intend to deliver!" that there sounds to me that you are nothing of the divine cleansing of high sec and lead by the general idea of making high sec better, but just working for some industrialists that are cashing in with their own bot miners because of the void created by this project of "yours", so you are no better than some mercenaries hired to do the same thing to the miners you "protect".

So what you are saying is basically they can continue doing what they were doing just as long as they pay those 10mil per miner he/she is using. By doing just that you are not changing anything.

Now you are going to say they need to follow the Code, in which it states among other things they should not mine excessively, what exactly is excessive mining and who adjusts the bar, is it James or Mittani, who says has more money than people can imagine?

They can not go afk and have to remain by their keyboards all the time, how do you keep track on that, by random drop ins, pft he can say he was helping his disabled mother or father get up or making dinner for his/her kids and you would swallow it and reimburse them double, or that one time you pointed out with screenshots was a staged event which would not at all surprise me, while the reality is that he didn't change a thing and is still at afk mining and botting as he/she was before paying those miserable 10mil to get you of his/hers back.

Some education that is, you give them some pointers on how to avoid bumping and gank defense. They haven't changed a thing and deep down you know it as well, people that have been boting and afk mining for a long time wont change over night unless you force them to with tighter regulations and more check ups. The bottom line is you do not care that much about if they learn or not, now do you?

And again with the "main thing is that your shareholders are satisfied". As I said, so much for your goal of purging high sec of bots and afk miners for the sake of high sec eve growing to be a better place and I soooo wanted to believe in your cause and I still do but so far you are not making any valid arguments that what you are doing being honorable or even that you are doing it cause YOU as INDIVIDUALS think it is right thing to do.

Who are these people who feel they should dictate how other people spend their money and free time.

The miners should stop whining this lot should stop boasting.

I mean the rest of us don't come round to your house and tell you sitting in the basement downloading Hannah Montana pictures is a bad thing do we?

Isn't miner bumping in any form not to be discussed?

Requesting lock

What if. I like that. Here's a what if.... What if those other merc groups showed up and blew you up anyways? You'd lose 2 ships instead of 1 + 10mil I guess.

It's your choice to pay or not. But you can't say you haven't been warned.

Wait a sec, wouldn't that miner be losing 2 ships and those 10 mil if another merc group besides New order came up and shot him, presuming that miner payed those 10 mil after being shot down by New order and after that paying 10mil?

I didnt know that.

Why is it not able to be discussed?

Just to be clear - I do not take part in this and if I ever did I would not hide behind NPC corps like the pussies currently doing it NEED to.
You really need to question their abilities when it's miners they hide in NPC corps from.

But you also need to consider that eve is a sandbox and not all players have the skill to pvp against ships that shoot back.
So this is their only way of entertaining themselves in eve without losing ships all the time.

But that said - Whats wrong with them popping the capsule?
They explode just like ships. If it's undocked - it can and at some point will explode.

+ Pods align and warp extremely fast so unless you really are an afk miner - It shouldn't happen.
You can also have an alt in fast lock griffin in belt - it will have a good chance of saving your ships after they shoot (not if an alpha strike) and get you the kill mails against the gankers - turning them into the victim.

Then join their public channel and link the killmails to them for lolz.
You can even ecm them before they attack and keep recycling the griffin alt. That way concord will be at the belt when they arrive for the gank.
Hint - keep your ship right next to concord or over 150km away. Never inbetween the two distances.

*looks up*

Jesus wept.

I see the usual assortment of whining idiots are crying about The New Order again.

Attention whining idiots:

This is EVE.

If someone comes along and violences your shiny boat, you have no cause to cry, because THIS IS EVE.

Highsec does not mean Safesec.

THERE IS NO SAFE SEC.

James and his merry band pop the lazy, stupid, and AFK. This is a Good Thing, and provides much entertainmant for the rest of us.

No one cares if you are 'disabled', 'mentally challenged', had your fingers cut off in a bizarre pizza accident, or any other lame-ass excuse most morons whip out to 'explain' why they are AFK.

NO ONE CARES.

THIS IS EVE AND NO ONE CARES.

If you can't grasp that simple fact, that James and his crew can roll in, pop every shiny boat they see for the lulz, and then roll out, AND ITS PART OF THE GAME, then I suggest you leave.

Now.

Biomass your toon, sell your crap/can i haz ur stuff?, and go play Star Trek Online.

Yes, yes, EVE is dying, there's the door, bye bye.

And stay out, you freaks.