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New server type Part X
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Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-30 23:11:34 UTC
Hey all. Thread rule = keep it clean.

OK - I have read some of the threads about new server shards, and was curious about the idea of a consensual PvP server. What I had in mind was something exactly like the current one, except:

PvP only allowed in lowsec (0.4 and below)

That's it.

My questions are:

1) Who here would move completely to the new server?

2) How many new players do you think this would attract? On many other fora there seem to be lots of folks who like the look of Eve, the mechanics, but just don't go for PvP. Let's face it, this is the best space sim out there.

Note: Please try and keep on topic and not diverge off into rants about carebears, ganking and the like; we have seen that all before and don't need a repeat.

My answers:

1) I would

2) A lot
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2012-12-30 23:13:26 UTC
1) WTF new shards?
2) GTFO

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#3 - 2012-12-30 23:19:08 UTC
Nope, if you want a non pvp server, use the test server.

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-30 23:19:59 UTC
Multiple shards are the epitome of carebearism.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#5 - 2012-12-30 23:21:06 UTC
Yup, we already have the test server for this sorta thing.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#6 - 2012-12-30 23:23:47 UTC
Lets say some company made a eve-like game which was much more Pve-centric than eve. But it still had spaceships solar systems, a player driven economy, mining, industry, claimable space and so on. Just... PvE centric vs PvP centric. (That is the economy is driven by the NPCs blowing up stuff).

I would be interested.

But another question: Who should get the money for the subscriptions to that game? CCP, or someone else? If its CCP, then it would be a shard of eve with augmented NPCs so they are dangerous enough to drive the economy. If its not CCP, then as soon as a game like that is available, CCP loses money.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-30 23:24:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
And another terrorist carebear that needs to be shot at sight.


edit: It's not about *trying* to keep the thread clean. You're insulting us. You're insulting CCP.
You're insulting the game by ignoring everything it's about.

You need to get your ass kicked. Hard. Often.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#8 - 2012-12-30 23:24:16 UTC
Just stay in your NPC corp if you don't want pvp in highsec. No need to worry about wardecs. Just beware of gankers.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-30 23:25:23 UTC
Hmm - maybe it bears repeating:

1) Who here would move completely to the new server?

2) How many new players do you think this would attract?

While I appreciate repeated carebear comments as much as the next person, I am curious about folks' thoughts on those 2 questions Smile
Lexmana
#10 - 2012-12-30 23:27:24 UTC
obvious troll. don't feed it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2012-12-30 23:27:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Tomar Martens wrote:
1) Who here would move completely to the new server?

2) How many new players do you think this would attract?
1) About 200, since the server would serve no purpose to play on and since the game would cease to funciton. I think that's what you see on the server that has the rules you're talking about (Sisi / Bucky)

2) No-one is interested in an “MMO” with a peak population of 200 people that gets shut down after a week since it can't carry its costs. The ones interested in the game you're describing are already playing that game: it's the X series.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2012-12-30 23:28:41 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
Just stay in your NPC corp if you don't want pvp in highsec. No need to worry about wardecs. Just beware of gankers.


if you want to annoy an npc corp member, spend the wardec fee on a bounty, if it's fat enough they're guaranteed to die a few times.

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Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-30 23:29:26 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
obvious troll. don't feed it.


In what way is my post inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic? I don't want 'feeding' - just thoughts on my 2 questions.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-12-30 23:30:32 UTC
Tomar Martens wrote:
In what way is my post inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic?
Because it asks a pointless question that has been answered a billion time and which you know will cause a riot. It's pretty much the epitome of trolling.
Qolde
Scrambled Eggs Inc.
#15 - 2012-12-30 23:33:58 UTC
YES EXACTLY THIS! AND WE SHOULD HAVE A WAY TO OFFER TEA AND CRUMPETS AFTER OUR GLORIOUS HONOR FILLED DUEL!






















dont feed the trolls.

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Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-12-30 23:35:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Tomar Martens wrote:
In what way is my post inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic?
Because it asks a pointless question that has been answered a billion time and which you know will cause a riot. It's pretty much the epitome of trolling.


Hmm - not if folks can keep on topic. But I am relatively new here so maybe I'm hoping for too much? If so, apologies.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#17 - 2012-12-30 23:41:33 UTC
Tomar Martens wrote:


My questions are:

1) Who here would move completely to the new server?


I wouldn't even log onto the new server (terrible idea and been done to death, F&I is the place for this)
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2) How many new players do you think this would attract? On many other fora there seem to be lots of folks who like the look of Eve, the mechanics, but just don't go for PvP. Let's face it, this is the best space sim out there.


Not as many as you'd think, and those that did would find Eve has mediocre PvE content, not to mention that assets should not be transferable between shards, or only once from the PvP to the PvE Instance, you don't get to interfere in the other shards market.

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Rengerel en Distel
#18 - 2012-12-30 23:41:49 UTC
eve pve content is pretty horrid. that's not going to draw players.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Tomar Martens
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-12-30 23:43:41 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
eve pve content is pretty horrid. that's not going to draw players.


But there would still be all the PvP you could want in 0.4 and below, or is it the chance of PvP anytime that is the attraction?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2012-12-30 23:49:03 UTC
Tomar Martens wrote:
Hmm - not if folks can keep on topic.
They are. It's exactly the discussion you were asking for, and if you don't want it, don't post on the forums.

No, you don't get to decide what people say in a thread.

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But there would still be all the PvP you could want in 0.4 and below, or is it the chance of PvP anytime that is the attraction?
It's not only the attraction — it's what makes the game possible. It would require a complete re-write to have it work in any other way and not be completely meaningless. Again, what you're asking for is the X series — if you want to see it implemented with EVE assets, look at the test servers for a real-world sample of how popular it would be.
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