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Helfrichi Helvette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-28 06:10:48 UTC
So my main has been playing for around 6 years, and after taking a few big breaks from the game im having trouble finding a corp that will accept me because of my long corp history list. It's almost like people dont realize how long 6 years is.

Anyone else experience this? Im almost forced to make an alt my new main...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#2 - 2012-12-28 06:12:07 UTC
Helfrichi Helvette wrote:
So my main has been playing for around 6 years, and after taking a few big breaks from the game im having trouble finding a corp that will accept me because of my long corp history list. It's almost like people dont realize how long 6 years is.

Anyone else experience this? Im almost forced to make an alt my new main...

Even if I have only one corp on mine, guess what.

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Helfrichi Helvette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-28 06:44:47 UTC
(said in an Indian accent, as in from india)

"Sooo, I see here you have been in many corps.... Why is dis?"

"I see here you have been in Brutor tribe a lot, do you not play de game often?"

LISTEN MOTHER@#$@$@ LETS SEE YOU STAY IN THE SAME #$#%ING CORP FOR 6 YEARS @$@#
Wescro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-12-28 06:50:15 UTC
Helfrichi Helvette wrote:
So my main has been playing for around 6 years, and after taking a few big breaks from the game im having trouble finding a corp that will accept me because of my long corp history list. It's almost like people dont realize how long 6 years is.

Anyone else experience this? Im almost forced to make an alt my new main...


Background checks are a part of the game. It's understandable why corps don't like hoppers. Maybe get a letter of recommendation from your previous CEO. You can get that cant you. Smile

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#5 - 2012-12-28 07:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Peter Raptor
Im amused at the fact that some corps want to interview you like a RL job interview, soon it'll be skype interviews, you'll need a CV and a tie and suit Roll

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Helfrichi Helvette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-28 07:12:35 UTC
I understand the hopping issue, but if your corp doesn't suck you shouldn't worry about it.

Say you're looking for a corp that fits your play-style. You find one advertised as such, but was misrepresented. You now have a new corp on your history record even though you were dissatisfied with it. How is that something that can be held against you? In my time playing this game, it has happened a ton.

When I log on, I want to chill with friends and have fun. I DONT want to spend a month searching for that special "someone / corp". I'm not justifying hopping, but over that span of time you can expect a long list and experiences to go with it.
terzho
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-28 07:45:07 UTC
We have someone from guiding hand social club in our corp...........he got in no problem, i'm sure you'll be fine.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-28 07:58:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Yes corp history does play a factor but some people really don't have a grasp of time.
And if they don't then the corp probably isn't a good fit.

What most corps fail to see and something to keep in mind when you are talking to them.
The interview goes both ways.
The corp interviews you to see if you will fit in and they are looking to see if you will be problem or an asset.
At the same time you need to interview them.
Find out what the corp expects from you and what they are going to do for you in return.
IF you don't like something you hear then walk away or ask more questions.
Corps create a list of questions to ask you.
Go prepared with a list of your own.
The corp should have no issues answering your questions.

One of the main reasons players have a long list of corp is because they chose the wrong corp as the corp was complete garbage. Most of which could have been avoided by asking questions.

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Frying Doom
#9 - 2012-12-28 08:00:50 UTC
If you think you have it bad, spend a moment of your time thinking about the poor members of Goonswarm that no one else would ever have.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-28 08:14:23 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
If you think you have it bad, spend a moment of your time thinking about the poor members of Goonswarm that no one else would ever have.


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Torakenat
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-12-28 08:19:28 UTC
Some corp's/alliances have a lot to lose from just letting anyone in despite their corp history list.

However, someone with phonebook size corplist could easily be construde as a spy.

If a corp doesn't want to invest in you, then move along. No reason to take it personal. Despite how long you have played, many corps really do scrutinize loyalty and with a long corp list, and you clearly have a hard time proving that.
Frying Doom
#12 - 2012-12-28 08:23:41 UTC
Torakenat wrote:
Some corp's/alliances have a lot to lose from just letting anyone in despite their corp history list.

However, someone with phonebook size corplist could easily be construde as a spy.

If a corp doesn't want to invest in you, then move along. No reason to take it personal. Despite how long you have played, many corps really do scrutinize loyalty and with a long corp list, and you clearly have a hard time proving that.

In all honesty, what I have found is that people with long corp histories are more likely to be prats.

Not saying that they all are but it is the biggest concern myself is that you let someone in and have to wait for 24 hours and then for them to dock before you can kick them out.

Prats can cause a lot of damage to your corps harmony in that time.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-12-28 08:35:56 UTC
Helfrichi Helvette wrote:
"I see here you have been in Brutor tribe a lot, do you not play de game often?"

LISTEN MOTHER@#$@$@ LETS SEE YOU STAY IN THE SAME #$#%ING CORP FOR 6 YEARS @$@#

Short stays in NPC corps can be a sign that you got kicked or did ragequit your previous corp.

Most people prefer to keep their corp history tidy by lining up a new corp while they are still a member of the corp they want to leave - unless they are a "OMG I can't stand staying one more second in this horrible, horrible corp" dramaqueen, of course.

Long stays in NPC corps are generally a sign of inactivity.

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Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-12-28 08:38:31 UTC
I have a long list aswell and due to that people tried to troll me with: do you have any social problems because you joined and left so many corps?
Many corps will try to manipulate the interview in a way that makes them more interesting for you, OFTEN (usually the corps I left after just 3-5 days) they were the complete opposite of what they had told me.
Active ?.... 2 people online, afk/non responsive.
00 corps... yay you joined ? silence......
Extreme language and blaaah on all channels - giving you a headache after 60 seconds - mature ?
No pressure, no forced gameplay - YOU JOIN CTAs 40 jumps out or you will be kicked from corp/alliance!!!!!

Its not always the players fault... but some people do not want to understand :)
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-12-28 08:40:43 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:


Not saying that they all are but it is the biggest concern myself is that you let someone in and have to wait for 24 hours and then for them to dock before you can kick them out.
.


Well they fixed the deal with docking you can now kick out a character even if they are in space.
With the changes in wardecs now I wonder if there is even a reason for the role timer anymore.

It did serve a purpose at one time but perhaps now that should be removed as well.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#16 - 2012-12-28 08:49:05 UTC
Some of the most "employeed" pilots have over 500 corps in their list... now that's something to ask how come to.

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AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#17 - 2012-12-28 09:00:33 UTC
There will be a corp out there for you, one that maybe dosent take itself quite so seriously or dosent have the same amount to lose through spying
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#18 - 2012-12-28 09:14:52 UTC
Now that some alliances / corps have managed to get a good power, some recruiters thinks that they are important and it makes them fart higher than their @&@ (it's possibly a french-only expression).

Perhaps that at one point, if people cancel the recruitment procedure when they see some unapproved methods, things will change.

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Torakenat
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-12-28 10:20:24 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Some of the most "employeed" pilots have over 500 corps in their list... now that's something to ask how come to.

/c

Of course, not saying someone with a phonebook size list of a history is necessarily bad. However typically but not always it is a red flag and should be covered in the initial interview.

Again, it all depends on what you want in your corp/alliance and what assets your corp/alliance has.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#20 - 2012-12-28 10:26:53 UTC
Generally it's not the amount of corp jumps you have made but how long you stayed in them and which corps they were.
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