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In defence of AFK mining

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Ghazu
#21 - 2012-12-28 06:45:22 UTC
AFK dudes are much easier to gank, is all.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

enterprisePSI
#22 - 2012-12-28 06:56:49 UTC
Great holy armies shall be gathered and trained to fight all who embrace evil.
In the name of the gods, ships shall be built to carry our warriors out amongst the stars and we will spread The New Order to all the unbelievers.

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#23 - 2012-12-28 07:08:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Pahrdi
Amelia Torez wrote:
For some reason, many vocal members of the Eve community find being away from your keyboard for a few minutes or more as being tantamount to the destruction of Eve. The reality is much different – this ability to be away from the keyboard and still progress is what makes Eve such an accessible game.

This is bs and you know it.

Everyone is fine with you doing afk whatever you want. You can go afk in this game as much as you are prepared to pay the afk bill. But please do not come here on the forums crying because you chose to make an easy target of yourself, an easy prey for anyone coming along.

You want to go afk? Fine. Take the risk for this decision and stand up to your choices. Use a cheap retriever, if you cannot afford to lose an exhumer.

Gankers and bumpers could even start roleplaying and pretend they were some crazy environmentalists fighting for the poor defenseless roids in space. That they would blow you up or extort you because you're harrassing, griefing these beautiful helpless belts out in deep space. Would this help to make you feel better?

But the simple truth is that "do not make yourself an easy target" is one of the basic rules in EVE, besides "do not fly what you cannot afford to loose". If you do, suck it up, embrace it even, buy another ship and try to learn something from it. Do erveything you can, to let someone else look like the juicy target in this beautiful, but cold and harsh universe CCP created for us.

And please stop thinking of Highsec as being safe. It is not.

Amelia Torez wrote:
It may be worth considering – those kinds of actions are encouraging new and casual players to rethink investing their free time and money on Eve and without those casual gamers, the Eve universe would fall apart.

I'm a very casual gamer. That's the reason why I stay in highsec.

Remove standings and insurance.

Dana Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-12-28 07:16:53 UTC
Like Tolero Guard, I have decided to wage war on the New Order, hopeless a task as this may seem.

We will be working together on Plans that are too Top Secret to disclose in this forum.

However, if you have been harmed by the New Order and their mighty bumpers and gankers, you can help the surely doomed rebellion against them by sending me isk directly.
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-12-28 07:22:39 UTC
Amelia Torez wrote:

It may be worth considering – those kinds of actions are encouraging new and casual players to rethink investing their free time and money on Eve and without those casual gamers, the Eve universe would fall apart.

It might also be worth considering that forcing the newbie with civilian mining laser to compete with with 23/7 AFK bot-aspirant in semi-invulnerable t2 mining ship might be unreasonable.

It might even make them rethink investing their free time and money on Eve.
Hannah Flex
#26 - 2012-12-28 07:26:16 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Amelia Torez wrote:
The problem with the constant warfare on AFK miners is that it’s starting to make the game unplayable for those who want a more casual experience.


If they're AFK then they aren't actually playing the game, making your entire argument irrelevant.


I dont see how this thread can go much farther Smile
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-12-28 08:03:27 UTC
Zol Interbottom wrote:
I think we can see that AFK mining is the wrong way to play the game, it was never intended by the devs as one of the sandbox activities and should be removed poste haste, preferably by banning the perpetrators


Why ban half of highsec when they could just make mining turrets not auto-repeat?

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-12-28 08:10:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
You can't AFK mine in High-sec for any length of time and that is a simple fact.

You can get normally 1 or 2 cycles (3 if your lucky) before you have to switch roids cause they are depleted.
Which means player interaction and therefore they are not AFK.

Now Ice mining, that you can do AFK.
But to be honest ICe mining and distrobutions missions are my definition of punishment.
And besides that is what they make gankers for right ?

So unless you are in Null or are mining ICE in High-sec you can't be AFK.
Frying Doom
#29 - 2012-12-28 08:15:03 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Amelia Torez wrote:
The problem with the constant warfare on AFK miners is that it’s starting to make the game unplayable for those who want a more casual experience.


If they're AFK then they aren't actually playing the game, making your entire argument irrelevant.

Do you never go afk while a fleet is forming up?

Both are a long boring process and both have people go afk.

Well ok I don't AFK mine I don't use macks but anyway on with the show.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-12-28 08:20:06 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Amelia Torez wrote:
The problem with the constant warfare on AFK miners is that it’s starting to make the game unplayable for those who want a more casual experience.


If they're AFK then they aren't actually playing the game, making your entire argument irrelevant.

Do you never go afk while a fleet is forming up?

Both are a long boring process and both have people go afk.

Well ok I don't AFK mine I don't use macks but anyway on with the show.


If I'm AFK, I'm either docked or sitting in a cloaked ship. Neither of those reward me for being AFK.

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Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-12-28 08:23:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Morrigan LeSante
SaKoil wrote:
Amelia Torez wrote:

It may be worth considering – those kinds of actions are encouraging new and casual players to rethink investing their free time and money on Eve and without those casual gamers, the Eve universe would fall apart.

It might also be worth considering that forcing the newbie with civilian mining laser to compete with with 23/7 AFK bot-aspirant in semi-invulnerable t2 mining ship might be unreasonable.

It might even make them rethink investing their free time and money on Eve.


You mean like how they can compete with traders or PI bosses doing the same thing?

Oh. Wait. They can't.


Personally I don't see the issue, you afk fine - you pays your money you takes your chance of waking up in a station. Working as intended imo. It's not like ice rakes in big money, or even small money tbh.



@Mallak Azaria: The fortnightly crying about afk cloaking would suggest there ARE rewards for AFK cloaking.... Blink
Abu Tarynnia
Kings-Guard
#32 - 2012-12-28 08:46:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Abu Tarynnia
The solution is quite simple ... all Non-AFK-Miners should stop mining for just one week. Prices will either stay the same .. then we know all miners are afk-miners OR the prices will go through the sky .. then those %$/&%§ gankers and so holy shithead-new-fu-order idiots will have to pay the price for new ship which will skyrock also.
What about traders, what about PI ? Are these activities what you understand under 'active play' ? Come on .. you just suck everywhere else so you have to harrass those that are 'weaker' then you. Be honest. You are just bullies, nothing more.
For me .. I just stop mining .. and stop playing .. this is not my style of game and I definitly won't support some crapheads and bow my head by playing their style.
Might be that I come back when CCP solved the problem with PVE vs PVP.

YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!!

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-12-28 08:48:33 UTC
Abu Tarynnia wrote:
The solution is quite simple ... all Non-AFK-Miners should stop mining for just one week. Prices will either stay the same .. then we know all miners are afk-miners OR the prices will go through the sky .. then those %$/&%§ gankers and so holy shithead-new-fu-order idiots will have to pay the price for new ship which will skyrock also.
For me .. I just stop mining .. and stop playing .. this is not my style of game and I definitly won't support some crapheads and bow my head by playing their style.
Might be that I come back when CCP solved the problem with PVE vs PVP.


Your understanding of this game is seriously lacking.

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Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#34 - 2012-12-28 08:56:09 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Zol Interbottom wrote:
I think we can see that AFK mining is the wrong way to play the game, it was never intended by the devs as one of the sandbox activities and should be removed poste haste, preferably by banning the perpetrators


Why ban half of highsec when they could just make mining turrets not auto-repeat?


i was kidding dude

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba

Abu Tarynnia
Kings-Guard
#35 - 2012-12-28 09:13:02 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Abu Tarynnia wrote:
The solution is quite simple ... all Non-AFK-Miners should stop mining for just one week. Prices will either stay the same .. then we know all miners are afk-miners OR the prices will go through the sky .. then those %$/&%§ gankers and so holy shithead-new-fu-order idiots will have to pay the price for new ship which will skyrock also.
For me .. I just stop mining .. and stop playing .. this is not my style of game and I definitly won't support some crapheads and bow my head by playing their style.
Might be that I come back when CCP solved the problem with PVE vs PVP.


Your understanding of this game is seriously lacking.


Nope .. since this game has the serious problem of those players who just want to have some fun with friends and to something that is NOT stressious lets say something like mining or missioning or what ever .. but then come those who [voice beavice and butthead]'have unterstood the game'[voice off] and press THEIR style of game on me. In all MMOs there is part PVP and part PVE. Some solved it well, others not so well .. and guess what .. I think EVE is NOT the crown of MMO evolution Shocked How that ?
If some idiots can just fly into newbie territory and harrass noobs without getting any kind of harrassment back. Well then I call it unbalanced, in other games you will get banned for such behavior. If every pyscho and siciopath can do as he wants .. well then this is def. not my game. I take the consequences and leave. If now the bashing of miners continues I hope more people will leave.
I think EVE has some great potential but nobody tries to make something out of it. Too bad. I will try out other upcoming games like star citizen and elite ... maybe they solved the gap between PVE and PVP. In EVE it's NOT solved.

YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!!

Abu Tarynnia
Kings-Guard
#36 - 2012-12-28 09:14:56 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Zol Interbottom wrote:
I think we can see that AFK mining is the wrong way to play the game, it was never intended by the devs as one of the sandbox activities and should be removed poste haste, preferably by banning the perpetrators


Why ban half of highsec when they could just make mining turrets not auto-repeat?

And another great idea ... like making drones obsolete ... Roll

YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!!

Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
#37 - 2012-12-28 09:44:11 UTC
Amelia Torez wrote:
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Is this seriously the best you can do? Pathetic.

You need to understand that the reason these people are getting bullied and pushed around and picked on and having their stuff stolen and their ships blown up is because they fail so utterly at defending themselves. And in EVE the defenseless are targets, pure and simple.

If you intend to do something about it, you need to get off your ass and start putting in some time, some effort, some thinking and some goddamn chutzpah. And then you can go and blog about it. Whining like a spoiled brat is still whining like a spoiled brat when you do it on a different domain name. Show us some substance. Show us some action. Create some actual goddamn in-game content instead of sperging your sad fantasies around.

You disgust me.

*spits*

"Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk

Be careful what you wish for.

Dave stark
#38 - 2012-12-28 09:48:04 UTC
afk mining doesn't need defending.

if you want to go afk accept that some one's going to come and take advantage of the situation that you're not there to stop them doing whatever they want, and in return for essentially sitting in space with a "shoot me" sign, you gain your passive isk making ability.
RichtPaul
Shadow Industries I
#39 - 2012-12-28 09:52:04 UTC
They should make shuttle drones that carry your minerals to stations. AFK mining is okay with me because I have this suspicion that everyone does it. Why not make it official? Tell me.
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-12-28 09:58:25 UTC  |  Edited by: SaKoil
Abu Tarynnia wrote:

For me .. I just stop mining .. and stop playing .. this is not my style of game and I definitly won't support some crapheads and bow my head by playing their style.
... well then this is def. not my game. I take the consequences and leave.


Bye. You can stop posting now.