Crime & Punishment

Holy cow, that didn't take long. It's merely how I view your sig. I hardly believe I'll ever see PvP'ers like you swearing up and down in the forums or in Local. More often, you'll create blogs about griefing, and get together with other griefers and talk about griefing.

I especially love the opening entry of Jame's MinerBumping blog, how he actually believes miners beat their children when they get popped.

But this is truly what is beautiful about Eve's community; the clashing of different playstyles and how that clash plays out in-game.

Well, there's the internet for you. I know for a fact that behavior like that is not solely bound to Eve.

I am a career miner, I have never been successfully griefed or ganked, but when that inevitably happens, it'll be my own damn fault. If there's one thing right in your sig, it's about the entitlement, and that also, sadly, is not bound to Eve. That's a cancer affecting the entire industry.

Oh but, why should miners have to warp their ship one system over to avoid this obvious greifing harrassment? Do you know how much time and capacitor that takes? 10 minutes of warping and approaching ice means 0.4m less ISK per hour, not to mention all that effort involved of clicking things and being at the keyboard.

New player as defined by the EVE miners=six month old alt in NPC corp.

3 pages already and nobody has realized that this Tolero Guard is the same Torarjan Collective that was featured in James' most recent blog post?

not your personal army, Mr. Salvator.

Yes. Their website designs are the same, their writing styles are the same.


My goodness, this ridiculous indignation about medical conditions and in-game responsiveness has resurfaced? I thought we had seen the end of it with 81702-6 unsubscribing during the previous minerbumping thread.


It seems like you are exactly the *right* group of people.

*ahem* bottom of page two

but yeah i was kinda hoping this resistance things was one of those promised in anonymous blog comments about a mysterious group making a list of code-compliant miners, agents etc and ganking them and I'm a little disappointed it's not

I mean the group is far less than a week old (date on the first mail on james' site is the 20th) and is bragging about having ~infiltrated the minerbumping organisation~ with multiple 'strategically placed' agents or whatever so it's difficult to take seriously

perhaps james 315 should start his own resistance movement against himself at least he has a track record of putting the effort in beforehand and getting a project off the ground

That's it, time to create a miner-killer alt. This sounds like a lot of fun that I am missing out on.

That's the spirit!

Now you are starting to actually play the game. Get organized, come up with a plan to defend yourselves (and your playstyle) and enact it.

That is what EvE has always been about, carving your own path despite any opposition that may come your way. The end result is that you (and your opponents) will end up having a much more enjoyable and satisfying game experience.

As an Agent of the New Order I am fascinated by the efforts miners go through to remain non compliant with The New Halaima Code of Conduct. www.minerbumping.com . You can do all the things listed on the various (and now mostly defunct) rebel websites OR you can pay 10,000,000 ISK for a one year mining permit and be unbothered from bumping and ganking.

All claims that we continue to bother compliant miners are untrue distortions. Only occasional miners who have paid and then blatantly broke The Code have resulted in permit revocation and justice dealt.

Now, about this particular eruption of hand waving and running about. This new resistance, as has been observed by other Agents upthread, is a result of the New Order Red Penning an entire corporation because its CEO threw a New Order compliant miner out of the corp for the simple offense of actually buying a permit. When James 315 attempted to settle things diplomatically, he was rudely rebuffed and so you have what we have here. Which is the way they want it. The entire matter is covered on the Dec 24th entry at, once again, www.minerbumping.com.

I have reviewed the new rebel website. It is clearly the work of Jake Salvator the aforementioned CEO. Clear, well thought out writing style. Content is mostly untrue and altogether worthless in creating any resistance to the New Order.

I took the time to report myself as a New Order Agent at the spot provided. Seemed to work correctly. Could have used a few more "offenses" to report myself for.

Also looked through the plans to fight us. The inherent flaw in actually trying to kill members of the New Order seem to have passed the author by. 1) New Order Agents are invincible. This has been shown since the beginning but each new resistance leader seems to think they will be the ones. 2) Knights of the New Order are almost always -5 or lower in sec status. Everyone can shoot them now. Each time someone transfers killrights on a New Order Knight they show they have no clue about how things work in pvp. This self-styled resistance leader is no different. IMPORTANT SAFETY TIP: Knights lose their Catalysts EVERY time they come out of station. This is the point of it. However, even in miner math, a 200 million ISK Mackinaw and a 40 million to 1.2 billion ISK pod cost more than 10 catalysts at 2.5 million each. Shooting the Knights before CONCORD just gets you on a killmail. It doesn't dissuade anyone.

Getting long here. I'll just wind things up by saying that if the New Order sounds good to you, roll a ganking alt, instructions at www.minerbumping.com and become a Knight of the New Order yourself. Or come be an Agent like me.

Highsec is worth fighting for.

Bing Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable