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Collective front launched against the New Order, James315 and miner bumping.

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#261 - 2012-12-28 16:04:46 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Mira Robinson wrote:
I look forward to the day he gives up and quits.

He wouldn't be the first to campaign against highsec and AFK miners.

I mean hell, if something as organized as Hulkageddon didn't deter us, then I doubt another twit from the UK is gonna make any kind of reasonable impact for any decent length of time.

Sure, he may be making a ripple or two now, but things will eventually return to normal. They always do. Eve has been here for nearly 10 years, and AFK miners are still in abundance.

James is not from the UK.


That won't stop the irrational xenophobia. I don't get what that posters problem is, he seems rather bigoted against non-US players for some reason
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#262 - 2012-12-28 16:19:29 UTC
Mira Robinson wrote:

My second clue was how he spells select words. "Honour" being the main giveaway.


Here's a thing, Honour is the common spelling used by pretty much every country that was part of the British Empire, and quite a few that weren't, except the USA. I also know of people in the US that use British and American spellings of various words interchangeably, much as people from Canada do.

Given the former size of the British Empire, James 315 could be from pretty much anywhere in the world, including the US and Canada.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#263 - 2012-12-28 16:19:55 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Mira Robinson wrote:
I look forward to the day he gives up and quits.

He wouldn't be the first to campaign against highsec and AFK miners.

I mean hell, if something as organized as Hulkageddon didn't deter us, then I doubt another twit from the UK is gonna make any kind of reasonable impact for any decent length of time.

Sure, he may be making a ripple or two now, but things will eventually return to normal. They always do. Eve has been here for nearly 10 years, and AFK miners are still in abundance.

James is not from the UK.


That won't stop the irrational xenophobia. I don't get what that posters problem is, he seems rather bigoted against non-US players for some reason

You get a lot of that kind of attitude from belligerent undesirables such as he.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#264 - 2012-12-28 16:23:39 UTC
So much bla-bla, no action! As far as I understand from their code and blog, James & gang is quilty of the following:

1). They want to bring peace and harmony in hi-sec.
2). Miner protectors/lovers!

This is blasphemy! EVE is a harsh and dark universe, there is no peace and harmony no matter the sec status. Hope that the goons will steep in and cut off this maddnes. Or if they are busy doing nothing, maybe we should gather andf form a coalition of anarchist and bring back the destruction and hate to hi sec. James and his green-peace gang should be a main gank priority for all that love hate and destruction.

But hey.. maybe I'm wrong and actually this is WoW in space...
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#265 - 2012-12-28 16:34:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Some Rando
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Hope that the goons will steep in and cut off this maddnes.

Yes, everybody but those affected should do something about it.

I AM OUTRAEG!!!

CCP has no sense of humour.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#266 - 2012-12-28 16:38:36 UTC
Bumpers are just ordinary high sec coward carebears. ::takes a drink::
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#267 - 2012-12-28 17:04:43 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Hope that the goons will steep in and cut off this maddnes.

Yes, everybody but those affected should do something about it.

I AM OUTRAEG!!!

Not sure I understand you. On the first glimp I was happy that somebody will bring the anarchy and destruction down to hi sec. But reading the so called code... they actually protect the miners and wanna bring peace and harmony back to hi sec .They are a power flower gang. We must gank them before they turn the whole hi-sec into a love-sec.
Mira Robinson
#268 - 2012-12-28 17:05:02 UTC
I'm not bigoted. I'm just looking forward to the day when all the hardcore griefers and gankers ragequit because CCP realizes there is more money to be made from casual players. They've already buffed the Barges and Exhumers.

Earlier today, the Dixon Mining Guild and the Butz Manufacturing Corporation formed a coalition.

It's hard to tell if there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the Dixon-Butz Alliance.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#269 - 2012-12-28 17:19:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Mira Robinson wrote:
I'm not bigoted. I'm just looking forward to the day when all the hardcore griefers and gankers ragequit because CCP realizes there is more money to be made from casual players. They've already buffed the Barges and Exhumers.


The day that all the so called griefers and gankers quit Eve is the day that Eve ceases to be Eve and becomes just another generic MMO that just happens to be set in space. The fact that Eve is harsh and full of people that will destroy your pixels for shiggles, war or RP reasons is what makes it pretty much unique. Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

Without the griefers and gankers Eve wouldn't make nearly as many headlines in both the mainstream and gaming press, the GHSC scam, the destruction of BoB from within, burning Jita, the Jita Riots, Ridic and the Ebank, Phaser Inc. these are all things that made headlines, they were all driven by players, planned by players and executed by players. The PvE content is mediocre at best, the player created content, which isn't just blowing up pixels or scripted, is where Eve shines, like a sandboxy ray of hope in an MMO market filled with themeparks.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#270 - 2012-12-28 17:42:24 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Mira Robinson wrote:
I'm not bigoted. I'm just looking forward to the day when all the hardcore griefers and gankers ragequit because CCP realizes there is more money to be made from casual players. They've already buffed the Barges and Exhumers.

The day that all the so called griefers and gankers quit Eve is the day that Eve ceases to be Eve and becomes just another generic MMO that just happens to be set in space. The fact that Eve is harsh and full of people that will destroy your pixels for shiggles, war or RP reasons is what makes it pretty much unique. Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

Deal. Now, about the freighters ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mira Robinson
#271 - 2012-12-28 17:43:40 UTC
Be that as it may, I acknowledge players like Helicity, James 315, and all the goons, but I cannot respect them. They are glorified bullies, and nothing more in my eyes.

All the people complaining about the condition of nullsec? That was a player-created problem. Alliances were tired of getting attacked, so they teamed up, so now it's just all these huge coalitions at all corners of New Eden, and they want to blame CCP and the highseccers for that? How about they blow it out their asses instead.

Earlier today, the Dixon Mining Guild and the Butz Manufacturing Corporation formed a coalition.

It's hard to tell if there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the Dixon-Butz Alliance.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#272 - 2012-12-28 17:49:10 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Mira Robinson wrote:
I'm not bigoted. I'm just looking forward to the day when all the hardcore griefers and gankers ragequit because CCP realizes there is more money to be made from casual players. They've already buffed the Barges and Exhumers.

The day that all the so called griefers and gankers quit Eve is the day that Eve ceases to be Eve and becomes just another generic MMO that just happens to be set in space. The fact that Eve is harsh and full of people that will destroy your pixels for shiggles, war or RP reasons is what makes it pretty much unique. Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

Deal. Now, about the freighters ...


Low slots. People won't ever think of putting cargo expander anyway. It's not like they are stupid enough to put even more stuff in a single ship right?
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#273 - 2012-12-28 17:58:21 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

I'd contest this. As far as gameplay is concerned, EVE is quite a long way behind most MMOs, and making it carebearish will just turn it into a bad WoW clone. The people who come to EVE for EVE will stop coming, and the people who come to EVE for WoW will go to WoW instead.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#274 - 2012-12-28 18:00:27 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

I'd contest this. As far as gameplay is concerned, EVE is quite a long way behind most MMOs, and making it carebearish will just turn it into a bad WoW clone. The people who come to EVE for EVE will stop coming, and the people who come to EVE for WoW will go to WoW instead.

That would never happen to EVE, like it did to all the bad wow clones.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#275 - 2012-12-28 18:01:06 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Hope that the goons will steep in and cut off this maddnes.

Yes, everybody but those affected should do something about it.

I AM OUTRAEG!!!

Not sure I understand you. On the first glimp I was happy that somebody will bring the anarchy and destruction down to hi sec. But reading the so called code... they actually protect the miners and wanna bring peace and harmony back to hi sec .They are a power flower gang. We must gank them before they turn the whole hi-sec into a love-sec.

Nah, they do want to bring tears to hi sec. Don't try to make any sense of the Code and Manifesto things. The spaghetti-heap or illogic will just give you a headache.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#276 - 2012-12-28 18:08:27 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Sure CCP may well make more money if this happened, but they would have to discard their original dreams and concepts of what Eve is and could become.

I'd contest this. As far as gameplay is concerned, EVE is quite a long way behind most MMOs, and making it carebearish will just turn it into a bad WoW clone. The people who come to EVE for EVE will stop coming, and the people who come to EVE for WoW will go to WoW instead.


Don't get me wrong I totally agree with you, it was a hypothetical "may". Personally I think the "trammelisation" of Eve would be the death of it, it's one of the few games in existence that encourages you to be a dirty, underhanded, conniving, lying, thieving, belligerently undesirable scumbag to achieve your goals, and that is why I, and no doubt many others play. The PvE in Eve is not good enough to carry the game, the PvP, in all it's varied forms is what carries it.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Mira Robinson
#277 - 2012-12-28 18:12:46 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Hope that the goons will steep in and cut off this maddnes.

Yes, everybody but those affected should do something about it.

I AM OUTRAEG!!!

Not sure I understand you. On the first glimp I was happy that somebody will bring the anarchy and destruction down to hi sec. But reading the so called code... they actually protect the miners and wanna bring peace and harmony back to hi sec .They are a power flower gang. We must gank them before they turn the whole hi-sec into a love-sec.

Nah, they do want to bring tears to hi sec. Don't try to make any sense of the Code and Manifesto things. The spaghetti-heap or illogic will just give you a headache.

Ditto. This is just mediocre roleplaying or terrible trolling.

Just another group of griefers mad that others in highsec won't play the way they want them to play.

Earlier today, the Dixon Mining Guild and the Butz Manufacturing Corporation formed a coalition.

It's hard to tell if there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the Dixon-Butz Alliance.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#278 - 2012-12-28 18:18:46 UTC
Mira Robinson wrote:


Just another group of griefers mad that others in highsec won't play the way they want them to play.


Let us turn that on it's head because that statement plays out both ways.

"Just another group of carebears mad that others in highsec won't play the way they want them to play."

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#279 - 2012-12-28 18:26:39 UTC
Some of you forum superstars need to get out to a system we're operating in. The ignorance in this thread is incredible. Come see for yourself and let's try for an informed discussion for once.

Miners welcome! Oops
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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#280 - 2012-12-28 18:29:15 UTC
Sara XIII wrote:
Some of you forum superstars need to get out to a system we're operating in. The ignorance in this thread is incredible. Come see for yourself and let's try for an informed discussion for once.

Miners welcome! Oops

And just so they know, we're in Brapelille at the moment.