Crime & Punishment

I don't think ya understand how bounties pay out. Considering what the dude said about herding the orbiting barges out of range miners have 2 options...pay for the gank ships and guys to clear your systems or get a permit.

You're better off with their permit. I would charge to rid the ebil bumpas from your systums then gank with the money ya paid me to do it.

Just curious, but how many professional bounty hunters take hisec contracts? And what is the average bounty on one of these bumping people? A cursory examination of their roster shows that there is indeed plenty of ISK to go around on putting bounties on them - an almost comically absurd amount, in fact. It is simply a question of whether or not the hunters are cashing in on them.

Now why would a hunter pursue them? Obviously for the ISK. Reasons not to? CONCORD retribution, as they are obviously a hisec only operation, so that cuts heavily into potential profits. Locating targets when they are either in one-man corporations or shielded by a massive, untouchable corporation also makes this problematic. The high probability that one may just be placing a bounty on a purely disposable alt is so obvious that it should go without saying.

I suppose that miners could simply put up their kill-rights at a price of zero to encourage more spontaneous target hunting, but that mechanic remains to be seen in action. Other than that, however, the pros of spending the ISK to bounty them, when weighed against the cons, are obviously too small - as evidenced by the fact that these bumpers even still exist to continue wasting valuable oxygen.

And no, I do not need to borrow a Retriever. We actually have a surplus of mining vessels at the moment. After all, they are so cheap (compared to their income generation) that their cost is effectively negligible.

Personally I think it's like some massive troll and all the bumpers are following along because it's funny to them.

I know I do.

Highsec afk-mining is the most glorious profession of them all. They are the vital backbone of this game, generating content and meaning for thousands. Stories of their epic deeds spawn articles in the media almost weekly and get new players to join.

The only thing that the heroic miners would ask is to make mining a bit easier, as the current implementation is highly taxing and requires deep knowledge of the game. Mining also has some risks, such as getting bumped out of mining range, which is unacceptable.

The miners would never mark themselves in such a way.

Your website says "Educate and empower miners". This is absolutely a good thing, however, you may want to address the inaccurate content on your site, and in your post, to fully realise this goal.

Bullying and griefing are both violations of the EULA, and quite rightly so. Anyone who is, or sees someone else, being griefed or bullied should file a petition with the GMs. The reason filing a petition against an Agent is a violation of the Code is because we do not violate the EULA, which means petitions against us waste GM time and keep other players with real issues waiting longer. This is Eve; what is or isn't permissible in another game is irrelevant here.

You are incorrect about our stated aims. People like to latch on to the AFK or bot parts of the Code while completely missing the other parts, failing to get the underlying point and not even being in the same ballpark as our goals. As for deliberately targeting newer players, this is nonsense. However, the quicker a new player gets ganked and podded, the quicker they learn the full extent of the danger undocking entails. Will some leave the game because of this? Sure, but if they work their way up to an officer-fit mission running ship and then it happens to them, they'll still quit, and probaby be a lot more upset.

While agents (like most people) occasionally drop a few curse words in local chat, it's actually the miners who are the by far the worst offenders. Not only does foul language seem to be the default response of a great many miners when they're confronted with rational argument, but also a number have been successfully petitioned for going as far as to threaten real-life violence to agents. Peronally, I had a guy threaten to cut off various parts of my body and re-arrange them because his internet space pixels were nudged a few virtual kilometers by my space pixels. I'm sure we can agree that this is far beyond the realm of acceptable conduct.

I'm skeptical about your resistance because you aren't the first and you'll likely not be the last. The current head of the resistance hasn't updated his blog in over a month. Fighting us will take time, isk and effort and these are things that, so far, bumphurt miners haven't been willing to do - just look at the lackluster support you've gotten in this thread; a few people saying "go get 'em", but I don't see pages of posts from people saying they'll dock up their mining ship and come join the fight in a combat ship.

With all that said, I sincerely wish you well in your endeavour, and look forward to meeting you and your followers on the field of battle, where I shall kill you. Should you mount a successful, sustained and visible operation againt us, whether you win or lose, the New Order is victorious because we will have provoked you into emergent gameplay, and that's good for the game as a whole.

admiral root
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Desirablely belligerent

Solution.
Right click your rocks your mining select keep at range :).

Solution 2.
Complaining wont make it go away.

Solution 3.
Noone ever said space was going to be nice.

Solution 4.
Blow him up.

Solution 5. All of the above.

If you had told me three years ago that bumping miners would replace suicide ganking/canflipping and that people would start 50+ page whine threads about it.....


My reaction:




Although it is kind of sad, too.

Pick a half dozen or so of the supporting corps who bump you.

War-dec

Gank

Profit???

Did I miss something?

I would call it Darwinism