EVE New Citizens Q&A

Unfortunate exchange, all around. But I respect that you've owned up to mistakes, Dorwath. Hopefully the guys on the other end of that also gave it a second thought.

In case that Delucian guy checks around here: Big props or what you do, mate.

And the attitude in that transcriptions shows why you are angry.

It's not RvB's fault that you had a hard time, it was your own attitude and expectations.

Dorwath Aivil > Ye well I was just in a blue fleet. Eve voice not working, so I asked where they all were so I can meet up with him rather then be alone. No answer, asked a few more times and still nothing. They are all talking, just not replying to a questio

Guess what, without voice comms you won't get into good PvP fleets anyway. Voice comms are a must and I think that the FC did answer your question about the location on comms, it was your end failure for not being able to listen too it.

In RvB there is a whole mail + forum post about stuff you need to know (specially how to join voice comms and it is explained how to do that).

Amen to that.

Last month me and an in game friend pulled up our killboards and looked at the old losses we had and the assorted ships we had scattered around.

We were horrified and laughing at the fits we saw (and used back then).

I joined RvB at about 6 weeks old and it was the best experience I could possible imagine for a new player and I'd recommend it to anyone remotely interested in PvP.

I did, and you can learn a hell of a lot with the right attitude. However, it is not a training organisation. You need to gen up on the basics of Eve, do the tutorials, ask for help in the appropriate rookie help channels or on the forums, make mistakes and learn from them. At the worst you should be asking for help in your corp chat channel, never in fleet chat.

The last time I looked RvB had several thousand members with virtually no recruiting criteria. Under that situation you are going to get a few arseholes among them, but they came for the pew not to hold your hand. You have to realise that with several hundred people joining and leaving every week, the same questions would get asked day after day if you opened the door to that sort of thing. Every single time I took part in a purple ops, there was always someone asking the FC to talk him through setting up his overview to remove friendly Reds from the fleet tab. Then five minutes later the same question from another late arrival. Yet it is all explained on the RvB forums and you can even download a set of overview setting with it all set up for you.

If the question was 'where is the fleet'? All you had to do was listen into voice comms and you would hear the FC saying 'warp to gate X', 'jump to system Y' etc. If your voice comms weren't working then that is your problem, you shouldn't even be trying to join fleet if you can't hear the commands, the FC doesn't have time to repeat everything in chat. If you saw people typing irrelevant stuff in the same chat, that might have just been two noobs docked up and having a private conversation in the wrong channel while the FC was engaged in the middle of a battle.

Finally if you got stroppy with them and two individuals decided to slap a bounty on your head, it was two individuals that slapped a bounty on your head not the organisation. The organisation doesn't even know who you are.

I'm new to RvB too, but not new to EVE. I don't think you can consider RvB a traditional corp, where people get to know each other, mentor each other, etc. It's just too big, with too many people coming and going in and out of it. It's kind of like having a membership at a gym or the public pool. You're all members, but you're not necessarily a tight group. Also, a lot of RvB members are alts, with a separate group of buddies in their main account's corp. That said, thumbs up to the RvB volunteer leaders for herding this big pack of cats and keeping things organized and supported.

As for the bounties put on you-- don't take it personal. People are giving them out freely, almost as a joke. These days, if you don't have a bounty on you, you're just a wuss.

Okay, my alt joined fleet + EVE Audio...

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[18:53:00] Steven Koskanaiken > Fleet loc?
[18:53:10] Steven Koskanaiken > Ship rules?
[18:53:14] Jared Montag > jos/liek


Well, took me 14 seconds to find the location of the fleet by just asking, both the typing and voice were around the same time with their answers.

So really, it's more likely it was your attitude then RvB's attitude.

Well it's FFA weekend so this was actually a fleet with mainly red people in it. But then again some people post here without knowing facts.

Pretty sure the cause of the strife here is that you were in a 'regular' fleet when you should have really been in a specific fleet for new players.
This is pointed out to you in all the welcome material which would be assumed you didn't read by your questions.
There's little more frustrating than spending the time to write out everything you'd need to know, tell people to read it, tell people where it is, but then to be asked (repeatedly) for that information anyway.

You're not a child wherein this kind of behaviour could be overlooked; just someone who has played the game less time than someone else.

The other part to this is that people saying "Eve voice doesn't work" is, with 99.99% accuracy, code for "I don't want to use it" because if one person can join the channel, then anyone can. If not, then you have ****** internet and relogging will fix it. There's really not an excuse to not use Eve voice. For it's flaws, reliability is not one of them.