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Why all the hate of highsec?
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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#61 - 2012-12-27 00:09:44 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
My problem with highsec is the smell, carebears stink.


Just be happy that you can buy stuffs from the market, thanks to the high sec bears.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Ginger Barbarella
#62 - 2012-12-27 00:10:50 UTC
.... Aaaaand again.

Some of you need to get a life. Seriously.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2012-12-27 00:27:25 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
My problem with highsec is the smell, carebears stink.


Just be happy that you can buy stuffs from the market, thanks to the high sec bears.

Thank broken game mechanics for forcing me to rely on highsec industry.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Luanda Heartbreaker
#64 - 2012-12-27 04:04:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
My problem with highsec is the smell, carebears stink.


Just be happy that you can buy stuffs from the market, thanks to the high sec bears.

Thank broken game mechanics for forcing me to rely on highsec industry.


wat? did u lose your medicine? :)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#65 - 2012-12-27 04:08:13 UTC
Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
My problem with highsec is the smell, carebears stink.


Just be happy that you can buy stuffs from the market, thanks to the high sec bears.

Thank broken game mechanics for forcing me to rely on highsec industry.


wat? did u lose your medicine? :)

CONCORD isn't the medicine, it's the disease.

CONCORD syndrome, relying on NPCs excessively.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Luanda Heartbreaker
#66 - 2012-12-27 04:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Luanda Heartbreaker
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:
they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :)

wat

Licking asses? Please tell me more...


your should be extreme clean :) all ur pets (i let u call them friends, but they are not), are ur friends only cos they can use "ur space", get used to it, they hate u more than ur enemies.
also... u didnt build any great with the alliance of the huge numbers... u just have collected all the morons cant use their brain individually, and their only joy is if they can **** hundred times better players by the advantage of numbers. 400 drake can instakill anything. where is the pvp in it?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#67 - 2012-12-27 04:30:42 UTC
Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:
they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :)

wat

Licking asses? Please tell me more...


your should be extreme clean :) all ur pets (i let u call them friends, but they are not), are ur friends only cos they can use "ur space", get used to it, they hate u more than ur enemies.
also... u didnt build any great with the alliance of the huge numbers... u just have collected all the morons cant use their brain individually, and their only joy is if they can **** hundred times better players by the advantage of numbers. 400 drake can instakill anything. where is the pvp in it?

O ho ho, someone sounds like thy wanted to get in but couldn't pony up the security deposit.

Damn spais, always trying to join our blobs. Boat's stories are all opsec.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#68 - 2012-12-27 04:30:48 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
Because some people aren't happy in null, they believe it's all hi-sec fault they are lonely and bored - and not their habit to greet new pilots with gate camps and supercap hotdrops.

TL;DR people refuse to believe their problems caused by themselves.

Newbies are great on gate camps. Sadly we do not yet outfit newbies with supercaps to hotdrop.


Let me tell you about my newbee buddy Erector Beastian. He's the bravest rifter pilot I know.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-12-27 04:31:56 UTC
Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:

your should be extreme clean :) all ur pets (i let u call them friends, but they are not), are ur friends only cos they can use "ur space", get used to it, they hate u more than ur enemies.
also... u didnt build any great with the alliance of the huge numbers... u just have collected all the morons cant use their brain individually, and their only joy is if they can **** hundred times better players by the advantage of numbers. 400 drake can instakill anything. where is the pvp in it?


Awe it thinks it's people. It's trying to make speech noises.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#70 - 2012-12-27 04:53:31 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
Because some people aren't happy in null, they believe it's all hi-sec fault they are lonely and bored - and not their habit to greet new pilots with gate camps and supercap hotdrops.

TL;DR people refuse to believe their problems caused by themselves.

Newbies are great on gate camps. Sadly we do not yet outfit newbies with supercaps to hotdrop.

Let me tell you about my newbee buddy Erector Beastian. He's the bravest rifter pilot I know.

That's a great name. The name of a hero.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#71 - 2012-12-27 06:01:50 UTC
I came in expecting further confirmation of my "one-sided view" about highsec. Did not leave disappointed.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2013-01-18 05:26:06 UTC
Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:
Lugia3 wrote:
I hate it because of all those carebears!X


why they hurt you?


Yes. They touched my modules when I was a wee lad.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
TharOkha
0asis Group
#73 - 2013-01-18 06:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Eternal Error wrote:
People aren't hating on highsec--they are commenting on a serious and legitimate problem. Risk/reward is out of whack and highsec continues to be made safer.


This dinosaur old fallacy is incorrect no matter how many times you will repeat it. No matter how you would nerf hisec, pilots will always find the way to be more profitable than low/null. Remove market and pilots will start jetcanning goods and maybe they would start barter trading. Something that cannot be done in low/null as far as there are gatecamps, supercapitals hotdrops on one bestower and gheto-thinking "shoot anything what moves".

There are already better rewards in low/null. But the risk is pure player driven and thats why this whole risk/reward stupidity is outside of logic.
Its null/low players fault that they driven hisec profits to the astronomical levels. Because nobody wants to trade in low/null. An as far as null is true sandbox, it will be null dwellers responsibility to be more profitable AND maybe more safe for trading neutrals (playerdriven police - what a sandbox).

Tax hisec? Why not. But it wouldnt change anything, it would just raised the prices.

Take escort? Why should i? Its just more expenses for me. Nobody is selling ferraris and BMWs in Bronx. They are selling them on the "wallstreet".

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2013-01-18 08:58:37 UTC
The only time people don't complain about walls of text is when it's about something exciting... Like bumping miners... lol

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#75 - 2013-01-18 09:08:15 UTC
They don't have enough targets to explode in low and null, so they look towards empire to get more targets. So they went there and ganked them, risk-free, and now wonder why people have stopped making the natural progression to low and null.

Plus lots of them have this opinion that EvE is a pvp-only game, and thus everyone in high that plays for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP must be doing it wrong. Even though people like miners and industrialists are the very core of EvEs economy, they're considered the lowest level of scum to these haters.

They'll only be happy when there's a nice steady flow of targets into their one-sided gatecamps.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#76 - 2013-01-18 09:09:02 UTC
There is no 'All the hate'

Just whiners thinking everyone should build the same castles as them in the sandbox.

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#77 - 2013-01-18 09:09:55 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
They don't have enough targets to explode in low and null, so they look towards empire to get more targets. So they went there and ganked them, risk-free, and now wonder why people have stopped making the natural progression to low and null.

Plus lots of them have this opinion that EvE is a pvp-only game, and thus everyone in high that plays for all the things that have nothing to do with PvP must be doing it wrong. Even though people like miners and industrialists are the very core of EvEs economy, they're considered the lowest level of scum to these haters.

They'll only be happy when there's a nice steady flow of targets into their one-sided gatecamps.


and this

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
Gelatine
EverBroke Geeks
#78 - 2013-01-18 09:18:16 UTC
If I had my way there wouldn't be a stable system status - I'd have a few new player "safe" systems for each empire (30 day old players and younger only, after that they are forcibly moved to "normal space.") What was high or low sec, I'd make potentially almost null with concord scouts looking for pirates and full concord convoys patrolling systems periodically (so potentially, you could be in a really safe system) but not there all the time - similar to guards in skyrim or the police in GTA. If you target someone, you have your gun ports open and are fair game for anyone to shoot including concord (if they are there.)

Don't get me wrong though - I don't hate high sec and I certainly don't disrespect anyone for choosing to play there; I hate the mechanic that defines what bounties you get, what resources are available, the station games and exploitation of ancient game design. I wouldn't miss any of it if it was replaced with something that made more sense - for example a mission runner who has grafted tirelessly is an asset an NPC corp; they would protect (and should protect IMO) their mission runner a bit, so at the very least I'd have stations rep that mission runner if he was being ganked (so it would take a lot more people to pop him) and have all missions behind locked gates (which can scanned down and hacked, but that action has a chance to draw concord as well.) Miners rights would have to be bought and belts would be locked behind gates too not in static locations. Shoving game content behind gates by the way, is just a means to make altering the content to the players skill level and ship type.

If you're a pirate, you wouldn't be allowed to dock at "good" NPC corp stations, but there would be mobile NPC pirate fortresses whose location is broadcast to pirates in local.

Meh - I'm rambling so I'll pack it in right here.
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#79 - 2013-01-18 09:20:29 UTC
this thread is now about why people necro month old threads

/discuss
Freyja Asynjur
Folkvangr
#80 - 2013-01-18 09:28:19 UTC

I didn't leave HS much since I started playing, and when I did... I had some pretty boring times. Still, I've not done any PVE for over 2 years, and I'm still having fun every time when I log in.

People crying about HS simply don't understand, or don't want to make the effort to understand, how things work here (plus, you're not really able to gang-blob 100vs1 in Empire, so I guess it's not not for the 1337 PVP'er *troll*) Lol

In the end, I spend much of my time online seeking/waiting potential targets, a few minutes actually fighting, and the rest of the time chatting with people. Like everyone in LS/NS.

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