EVE General Discussion

Blame CCP for making bad decisions. *cough SANCTUM NERF cough*

Stupid stuff like that doesn't solve anything.

they are angry 'cos highsec players arent live in a goon like alliances shadow and dont have to lick asses to keep their territories. thats it :)

Highsec got easy access to Trade hubs...

Thats about it

why they hurt you?

Wouldn't you know already?

Yea... Jita... Lucky Hiseccers...

I meant literally.

That's we have have tons of friends. A blob of friends, even.

Alright, i think it's time to explain this once and for all. So this post will be a bit long.

I can start by saying that i have done pretty much everything in EVE since i started back in 2004. I have been a miner, mission runner, npc'er, pirate and done PVP in high / low and 0.0 space and so on.

I recently came from a corp (Mind Games.) that is a low sec / 0.0 space corp. We was roaming alot in both low sec and 0.0 space and got into many fights there. Mind Games. and the alliance Suddenly Spaceships are an alliance who are mainly living in low sec, but are running fleets into 0.0 space to have fun killing players, not to take space or shoot stations and that ****. They also runs alot of fleets in low sec, witch is pretty nice.

This type of PVP as Suddenly Spaceships and even Rooks and Kings do is the only thing i like about low sec and 0.0 space PVP. When it comes to the big alliances who fights in massive blobs is the most boring part of PVP in EVE. I agree it's pretty thrilling the first month or two by doing this type of PVP, but after that it's just pure dull (my own opinion).

Here you can see a pretty nice fight Suddenly Spaceships had before i joined them. This video is only 8 mins and 44 seconds long. Now, you can see the whole fight from the start to the end here. It's almost 1 hour and 5 minutes long.

And i also like this type of PVP as you can see here.

And it's not a secret either that most of the PVP in 0.0 space are done by the big massive alliances. And that makes the 0.0 space PVP experience in general pretty boring.

I'm not saying every fights there are boring, but most are.

Now, lets talk about empire. I will only talk in the perspective of PVP in empire since that's what i'm doing right now.

Alot of the 0.0 space players are always saying meeeeeehhhhh, PVP in empire (high-sec) is all about ganking miners and newbs. I'm saying that's a pretty ******** statement. Because those who says that have clearly not been in a PVP corp in high sec that actually have good PVP fights.

Now i will talk about Rebirth. I was in Rebirth some months ago where i made a movie that shows what we was doing. We was doing most of our PVP in high sec, but had some few fights in low sec to. You can see some of that in my Rebirth 4 movie here.

My movie only shows a little part of all of the fights we have had in Rebirth earlier. You can see more of our fights here, here, here and here

As you can see, we get ALOT of crazy and good fights in high sec. And why do you think we get that?

Yes, that's because we actually use alot of time to search after corps and war dec those that WILL fight back. Ofc, if we get contracted to kill a mining corp, we will most likely do that. But that's not PVP material that will come out in a movie.

In 0.0 space you only have to join a fleet to get PVP. But in high sec, you have to do some research on what corps to war dec before you can get good fights. But the thing is that you get rewarded back pretty damn good by doing so in empire. And you will actually have tons of fun by doing PVP in high sec then.

Those who claims high sec is boring by doing PVP there are likely some gankers who have been in a ****** high sec PVP corp that only ganks newbs and miners. That's not really PVP. That's more called boring life.

Now i will also talk about some things that alot of those 0.0 space peoples also are whining about when it comes to high sec. And that is station games and logistics.

Let's begin with station games. Most of the fights in high sec, low sec and 0.0 space are happening at the stations or gates. So i don't see the problem that fights in high sec are at stations then. What are the differences here?

Now to logistics. I think it's pretty funny that the 0.0 space players are whining about the logistics being used in high sec when most of the 0.0 space today where players are contains with carriers (that can be used as a logistic) and tons of other capital ships. What's the difference on using a logistics in high sec than blobbing the hell out of someone with carriers in 0.0 space?

I'm afraid there isn't any differences. The only differences is that a carrier can be used as a hauler and it have much more higher chance to survive (because of massive hit points) than a tiny little Guardian just to take an example.

So is there anyone who actually can explain in details why 0.0 space is any difference than high sec when it comes to station games and logistics?

I'm afraid you wont have an explaination for that, because i think i just told the truth about it here already.

Oh also. Someone please explain to me why someone says that the real PVPers are in 0.0 space?

Anyone wanna prove me wrong?

Why all the hate of highsec?

Because some people who play EvE for years lose sense of being here and enjoying EvE like it is, most of them spent more time on whining and forum than in game.

To OP, stop paying attention on them, they not worth a single quote, they steal your vauable time, all what they can is being emos and cry about other players, im my opinion they dont belong to true EvE community, meta forum gaming, nothing more.