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During the latest Episode of Podside (iTunes Podcast), we were joined by CSM member Hans Jagerblitzen to speak on what he could about the CSM winter Summit. During the discussion Hans was asked if there was any portion of the summit that didn’t go smoothly or as planned, Hans replied about the section of “DUST 514”. He simply put it that while CCP was presenting the Dust portion of the summit to them, they just simply lacked knowledge of the game due to the fact none of them (outside of Hans) play the beta that often or interact with the DEVs involved with DUST 514. He went on to say that they where then given a “Crash Course” about DUST 514 and will have more meeting (over comps) to come about DUST due to the lack of interaction and of enthusiasm for the game. It was interesting to hear how though none of these individuals play DUST still didn’t hold some of them back from speaking against the game.

The topic was then brought up by Hans about DUST being represented in the CSM. He stated that though it probably wouldn’t be possible this year for DUST to have its own counsel, he spoke about how he could see someone being elected on the current CSM to represent DUST 514 (Granted the Votes are there)

I am unsure of the plans of CCP with DUST 514 being represented on the CSM, but it dose seem clear to me that it is needed in 2013. This first year is the most important.


NOTE: This is a topic I had placed on the DUST514.com Closed beta forums and brought it here to get Capsuleer feedback

Here are the interaction that have been listed and are planed outside of the NDA for EVE/DUST514

Corporations

• You can join any Corporation in EVE Online or DUST 514
• You can be a CEO or director of any Corporation in EVE Online or DUST 514.
(This means that it is possible for a DUST 514 Corp to own Null sec SOV.)
• You can accept members from both EVE Online and DUST 514 •

Comunication

• You will see EVE Online players’ character names and portraits and vice versa
• Strategize and fight together in real-time

Planets

• Planets taken over by DUST Mercs will effect SOV Conquring in Faction Warfare (This feature is already in effect)
• Orbital Bombardments allowing fire power from Space to the Planet
• Sky Fire Batterys will allow Fire from the Planet to Space
• Planitary Interaction will be effected by DUST in the future

Market

• Infantry Items have already been placed on the Market

LINKs:
Player Corps
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I don't think the base is present to get a Dust CSM voted in, and giving dust players the vote would lead to much vote rigging since its free-to-play.

I mean 'base' in the political sense of the word - the people who can be relied on to vote in a particular way. In this case, the 'base' would be CSM voters who care enough about Dust over and above everything else to vote for whoever is standing as 'The Dust Candidate'. I'm not sure there are all that many of them around.

Limiting voting to those who have paid for items in Dust would limit alts and non-players from involvement, but I'm not sure if that's really the best way to go, or how that would fit in with CCP's 'paying for dust won't give you any advantages' policy. As things stand, the link between the two is so tenuous that we're effectively talking about two separate games and if anything, it'd be better to give Dust its own council than allowing Dust players to vote in the existing CSM.

I'm nostalgic for Scalding Pass in its own terrible way, please take good care of it :3

I haven't listened to what Hans said exactly on Podside, but I think you might be misquoting him somewhat. I have played DUST a little, and Kelduum has played it a fair amount. The main focus at the summit was not at all on DUST itself, it was on how it links into EVE, and that is a topic that you don't need to be an expert DUST player to understand.

As I said in the 10 or 12 other "DUST should be on the CSM" threads, you guys are *way* premature. How about you let CCP finish getting DUST out the door first, and see how many people are playing DUST 6 months or so after release.

DUST has to become relevent to EVE before the players get CSM representation.

A compelling link demonstrated in open beta would suffice, although that'll probably be too late for this year's election.

Biggest problem I see with Dust reps on the CSM is how much do they get to influence eve and how much does EvE get to influence Dust.

Also what happens if you have say 2 Dust reps of the 14 and Dust dies with bugger all players or how many Dust reps should they have if it suddenly gets 2 million players after release 5 times that of EvE players.

Maybe they need their own CSM thingy and then the 2 can discuss the links between the 2 games.

Agree.
Don't misunderstand me here. I am not talking about throwing someone in there today. I'm simply wanting you to have a open mind for when the time comes a few months down the line and to also understand whats going on as of now.


If anything at all those who run this year to represent DUST should play and understand EVE in a general regard. Not every CSM member is of full understanding of every aspect in EVE Online. This is why members like Two Step run under platforms such as Worm Holes or in the case of Hans its Faction Warfare.

I guess it depends on what you consider EVERY aspect. No one can be a 100% expert, but there are a few of us that can certainly talk about most of EVE with quite a lot of experience.



This happens because we only have 65k people voting instead of 150k. Until voting passes a certain threshold and voters are more concerned about the game as a whole instead of their own little corner of it, candidates will continue to campaign to specific demographics within the community.