EVE New Citizens Q&A

for PvE:
- Train a Drake for lvl 3 missions. Also train probing and hacking skills... Because missions are really boring and its nice to take a break and run combat sites or hacking sites. The drake can also handle C2 WHs fine. If you have a buddy in another drake, C3 WHs are doable.

- Next train for the Tengu to do lvl 4 missions and be more efficient in WHs (if you wanna risk it).

- You already trained Caldari Cruiser to 5 to get into a Tengu, so go ahead and train for a Basilisk next. Now you can get into incursion fleets easily.

By this point you should have a good amount of ISK but be bored out of your mind. PLEX a second account and train Minmatar ships for PVP and leech ISK off your PVE character.

OK so i am going to through my view

i am focusing on two ideas at the moment...solo missions and earning plex to yes keep playing

so i am going to simply address a few ideas i hold important

number one...no matter what ship you fly, the slowest part of eve is free flight in normal or dead space

to increase your income per hour and to just speed things up train your science skill to level four immediately

first off this game is rocket science...train science...keep it at the end of your queue training to level 5 until its done then look at your skills available period

back to my point
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science level four gives you small tractor beam...that means 19 km less free flight SLOW PLAY per wreck or wreck group to pull those SOLID triangles to you...empty triangles are exactly that empty wrecks

second...learn to fly the destroyer of any / all races...i actually like the Gallente because of the

three DRONE

this is space...we are human...there are no monsters here but other humans...humans in space use robots...robots kill for you ...robots don't demand you target more than once...they don't even need that if set aggressive

train all kinds of robots in time...but for sure you need drones to level three for and scout drones to at least two or three

but this is for ships.. so yes other than those ideas on top of any ship i agree destroyers battle-cruisers and cov-ops (someday soon )

New destroyer hull. something so that t2 destroyers arnt fully dedicated to 0.0 ****. how bout a lolsec dessie?

I got SO excited reading the title of the news, I thought CCP was letting us pick the next new ship in game.... Then as i read on... meh..

Good question. Let's see...new capsuleer...hardly any training, hardly any dough ray mi...

The progression is frigate/destroyer/cruiser. Battlecruiser ices the cake, but your skills should be up to par...depending on the race (Caldari - shield skills, Minmatar/Amarr - armor skills, Gallente - drone skills).

So...Minmatar (start with the best ;-) As was said above, the frigate target for Min is the Rifter. It's a fabulous ship. Newer players may have to use mods for cap/power. It's fast and rat-a-tat-tats with those auto-cannons.

Destroyer class? The Thrasher of course. This is a serious ship - a real frig popper. Though your Rifter will be forever your buzzing little MG, the Thrasher gets you started thinking in terms of warship. The skills you need for this one gets you started on understanding skill progression visa vis fitting a ship. With all those extra guns, the Rifter starts seeing a lot of time in the garage.

Cruiser class...Min has two good choices, but you come to a fork in the road here. I like both. The Stabber is honestly one of the best looking ships in the game. The Rupture is honestly one of the oddest looking (imagine a Spanish galleon with the front end sawed off.) The Stabber calls for shield skills. The Rupture wants armor tanking, but can use shield tanking (toss a coin). Since the tendency is to work toward that Battlecruiser, and the Min BC of choice is the Hurricane, armor tanking training starts in earnest about now. The Rupture is tougher, can hit at range with some force and doesn't require quite the skill the Stabber needs. But, I kept flipping back and forth with these two because, well, they're both FUN.

My staff car now is the Fleet Issue Stabber. So, I guess it won out in the end. Pick one???

Stabber. Hands down.

My standard answer to this is "Get a rifter" because they are the most fun you can have for the price. Or a Merlin if you must be Caldari.

If you'd rather go straight to T2 I'd recommend the Taranis as they are very versatile and have an amazing ability to survive fights in the right hands.

Don't fly ships worth more than a 1-2 bil ISK. A new player should not even think about flying a capital ship for at least a year after committing to training all core skills to 5 and then many expensive cap skills to 4-5. If you try to fly one before then, you will probably lose it soon, and get poor performance until then.

Caldari for the ECM, Amarr for the omni armor tanks, and Minmatar for the long range webs. Armor fleets tend to be slow.

Frigates are great ships out in 0.0 but not in low sec as gate guns tend to pop them fast. If you want to fly in 0.0, then most any frig is a good idea with 2-3 Nanofibers and an mwd/ab, but one with a covert ops cloak is an especially good idea. Get the Sentinel or Kitsune to level 5s on all helpful skills, and then move to the corresponding cruiser: Curse/Pilgrim or Rook/Falcon. Put simply, no one likes a red Rook, though few people notice a blue Rook. You see, a blue Rook gives no direct logi aid, so people don't see your role in keeping them alive by protecting every fleet member from dps by jamming the reds. ECM is high on the primary list, and given that they tend to have no tank, logi struggle hard to keep them alive. They typically pop in seconds after they appear, usually. An expensive occupation unless you fly with high tank and logi support., which almost never happens. The best you will see typically is a Scorpion with its gimped, but long-range ECM, or a blackbird, which doesn't even have the range. EWar could be great, but it tends to lag out and get alpha'd before you even notice it on the field

If you go for the popular battlecruiser, then get it to level 5 with all related skills and proceed to the command ship. I would suggest the Harbinger and then Damnation. Everyone loves the bonuses of their command ship pilots. You will be high on the primary list, sometimes rivaling the logis, and as such must be continually locked up by the logis for immediate support.

But if you want to be THE most important ship in the fleet, train LOGISTICS to 5 and get into the Guardian with all related skills to 5. You will be the top of the primary list, the top of the new fleet formation wish list, the top of the jam and damp list, and the BOTTOM of the killboard list.

The cane, with all its "choices" simply requires that much more training to make use of those "choices." Advising new players to get into the cane (or most other Minmatar ships) is the equivalent of asking them train forever before they can effectively do anything. Minmatar ships are great, but not for the new player with low skills.

The harby is probably first on my list because it armor tanks and leads to the powerful armor command ship, the Damnation. The T3 is a bad recommendation because any new player is bound to lose it and besides the huge ISK lost (emo quit) there is skill point loss for those who cannot leave their ship before it is destroyed, which is most people. Vindicator is just a bil ISK asking to be popped and so is a Nightmare. When outnumbered, those are the last ships on my list to jump into, and NOT EVEN then. Sounds like someone has a bit too much extra ISK on their hands.

Expensive ships is bad advice, especially for the new player. For example, Test alliance could make you red and then kill your ships, as they did with a Titan recently less than a day before expected completion. That's between 45 and 85 bil ISK. Never take pvp or 0.0 advice from individuals who demonstrate great skill getting popped, trolling, and wasting ISK.

edited: to be a little nicer to Test alliance and focus more on the op's topic.

TEST didn't kick ESC, they simply offered us the option of leaving with no option of staying. Ironically, it was all about another really good FC (like you), ShadowandLight.

My valid point is that a new player should be careful about flying expensive ships, because an alliance like Test can just go back on their word and destroy your Titan before the build is even completed. Yes, an entire alliance can change you from blue to red, and then nullify their promises and destroy your Titan, even though you play by all the rules and follow the agreement honorably. If you train for an expensive ship, be prepared to watch friends destroy it for the lols. Applies to all expensive ships.

PS: Good logi pilots don't have much of a killboard. I am one such.

For Drones..... go for T3.... you will NOT be sorry.