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So i took my Venture into lowsec mining and...
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Andres Talas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-12-24 12:09:41 UTC
Comey Calla wrote:
...I barely made any more money than if i had saved all my trouble and mined Veldspar instead? Shocked

I am still trying to sell Hedbergite at Jita for a price that makes worth the trouble -long travels, plus evading rats and a lone guy i didn't waited to ask why he was warping into my belt, plus skilling up to use a cloak, and buy that cloak itself with a ten days old character, and then find a sensible GTFO fit. Not too confident, though.

After checking the market a bit, I think that maybe lowsec ores are way underrated for the trouble they cause? But anyway I never tried this before so please, can someone confirm wether is it worth to mine lowsec ores? Would be better (= more bang per buck) to become a hisec uberminer with all the skills and stuff?


Theres bad news, and theres good news.

The bad news is, yeah, mining in losec sucks. The ore isnt worth that much, and the place is full of people who kill miners.

The good news is that the fact you did all the things you have as a noob has left a bunch of us damn impressed.

Welcome to EvE.

If you want to make more serious ker-ching than veldspar, and are happy to mine in "disputed" areas, you might want to have a look at mining in either nullsec or wormholes.

But welcome to EvE.
Dave stark
#22 - 2012-12-24 12:13:04 UTC
Andres Talas wrote:
The bad news is, yeah, mining in losec sucks. The ore isnt worth that much,


considering it's the most lucrative ore in the game....

the problem is, it also spawns in 0.0 space, which is much safer to mine in, and easier from a logistical standpoint.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#23 - 2012-12-24 15:33:04 UTC
Gravimetric sites.

Hostiles would still have to spend time and resources to probe you out. Fierce competition in hisec means you'll have an easier time locating an untouched gravi site in lowsec. For a beginner that absolutely wants to mine in lowsec, find yourself a nice gravi site at least. Most people I see mining in lowsec have the luxury of a POS belonging to their corp, to which they can stay aligned.
Max Godsnottlingson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-12-24 18:20:12 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
You might look into exploration. Gravimetric exploration sites in lowsec spawn 0.0 ores. It'll take some time to find one, but you'll earn many times what you would in hisec. As a bonus it's less likely (though still very possible) for player pirates to come after you.


If you are going to use exploration sites for mining also consider WH systems too. OK, you have to scan everything down, but a good WH system can reap a lot of reward for one of the new mining frigate enabled pilots, especially if you also make sure that you can use cloud harvetsres too.

I do quite a bit of WH 'ninja' mining now, though use a cheap and chearful throw away Retriever.

You just have to make sure that you BM as much as you can there as those Sleepers with mince a mining ship, so I don't even try to tank them, and of course you haveto keep hitting the D -Scan to get out of dodge as soon as you see other scan probes being used.

I probably make more mining in high sec, but occsionally I hit pay dirt big time and turn a good profite, and of course, it's much more entertaining then just sucking on high sec rocks
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-12-24 19:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
If you plan to go ninja in some holes check for residents first. They trend to scam down all the sites daily and won't need probes to find you. Also keep in mind that you will have 20 minutes max before the sleepers show up. If you warp to a grav or ladar site and the sleepers are already there then the hole is occupied...gtfo!

Edit: 0.0 isn't that bad. If you can get on deep you'll be fine. The tricky parts are getting in and back out
Andres Talas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-12-24 21:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Andres Talas
Praxis Ginimic wrote:


Edit: 0.0 isn't that bad. If you can get on deep you'll be fine. The tricky parts are getting in and back out


Having diplomatic standings with the locals can help - find who has soveriegnty there, and look for their public channels and ask to speak to a diplomat or "diplo". If they ask for money for standings, say thank you and move on.

You're doing this because most alliances are Not Blue Shoot It, so you want to see what you'd need to do to become a blue.

Note a small number of alliances, concentrated in Providence, are Not Red Dont Shoot - but they have very very very long red lists of people who are Kill On Sight (including me).
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