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Mirima Thurander
#1 - 2012-12-22 18:09:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1565837&page=5#146

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946


U guys come out and point out the main problem and then suddenly forget u said u where going to fix it.

So what's the deal?

I'm just looking for a clear answer.

Yes working on it.

Or

No shelved for a while.


Only people informed on the subject need reply.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Sanandrea
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-12-22 18:10:05 UTC
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.
Mirima Thurander
#3 - 2012-12-22 18:38:41 UTC
I think a change as large as that effects everyone in eve.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Chung Mo
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#4 - 2012-12-22 18:45:31 UTC
Sanandrea wrote:
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.


Are you being serious? People like you are whats wrong with this game if you are.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-22 18:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Sanandrea wrote:
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.


The same could have been said about Faction Warfare.

EDIT: direct link to the dev blob. nullsec development: design goals
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-12-22 18:51:41 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1565837&page=5#146


U guys come out and point out the main problem and then suddenly forget u said u where going to fix it.

So what's the deal?

I'm just looking for a clear answer.

Yes working on it.

Or

No shelved for a while.


Only people informed on the subject need reply.

Oh, it's you again.
I guess you've excluded yourself from replying to your own thread. Obviously you're not going to let that stop you...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-12-22 19:14:30 UTC
It will be fixed when moogoo gets fixed and a art dept. dev blog gets released.

Soon tm
Mirima Thurander
#8 - 2012-12-22 23:14:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
Still waiting on CCP.

Edit

I just got done reading that old dev blog.

And

WTF CCP why have u not done EVERYTHING in that blog, it fixes ALL are problems.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2012-12-23 00:17:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Sanandrea wrote:
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.
As luck would have it, it would probably affect more than 20% of the players.

Oh, and OP: those were a list of things that would be good if they could happen over five years or so… As the blog says, they're design goals, not something that is certain to happen.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#10 - 2012-12-23 01:12:17 UTC
Chung Mo wrote:
Sanandrea wrote:
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.


Are you being serious? People like you are whats wrong with this game if you are.


And so it begins

Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Mirima Thurander
#11 - 2012-12-23 11:47:37 UTC
Dear CCP,
needs the intel fixes Sooner rather than later.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-23 12:04:53 UTC
Sanandrea wrote:
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.


Nullsec is filled with carebears pretending to be something else, constantly whining and generally just being annoying, which basically just means no one wants to live there no matter what CCP does.

I do think it's perfectly fine that CCP spends time improving content playing by 20% of the player base, if the idea is to make it better and bring more players into that type of content.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#13 - 2012-12-23 12:05:13 UTC
a lot of grandiose ideas that will never come true

where did i see it before?

oh yeah in pretty much every game i have ever played Cool
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-23 15:40:19 UTC
abloo bloo bloo CCP hasn't made shooting ratters easier than shooting fish in a barrel ((

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
RRNL
Perkone
#15 - 2012-12-23 15:51:28 UTC
They realised when working on that that the core issue of null sec pvp is that fact that ships them selvels are borken and unbalanced. So thats why they are fixing those first
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#16 - 2012-12-23 18:32:45 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Sanandrea wrote:
They shouldn't be working on nullsec stuff that only benefits 20% of the players you know.
As luck would have it, it would probably affect more than 20% of the players.

Oh, and OP: those were a list of things that would be good if they could happen over five years or so… As the blog says, they're design goals, not something that is certain to happen.


This!

What part of at least 5 years of development work do you not understand?

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Mirima Thurander
#17 - 2012-12-23 18:37:01 UTC
give me the intel part NOW they can work on everything else for the next 5 years, so long as they get rid of local sooner rather than later i will be happy.


because the ALL KNOWING LOCAL is STUPID.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#18 - 2012-12-23 18:39:45 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
give me the intel part NOW they can work on everything else for the next 5 years, so long as they get rid of local sooner rather than later i will be happy.


because the ALL KNOWING LOCAL is STUPID.

Yes, almost as stupid as removing local without a better game mechanic to replace it.

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Mirima Thurander
#19 - 2012-12-24 00:49:11 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
give me the intel part NOW they can work on everything else for the next 5 years, so long as they get rid of local sooner rather than later i will be happy.


because the ALL KNOWING LOCAL is STUPID.

Yes, almost as stupid as removing local without a better game mechanic to replace it.



please look at THIS

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946

and then scroll to the bottem and read the INTEL SECTION,

Now go feel stupid for wasting your time typing the above words.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#20 - 2012-12-24 15:18:21 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
give me the intel part NOW they can work on everything else for the next 5 years, so long as they get rid of local sooner rather than later i will be happy.


because the ALL KNOWING LOCAL is STUPID.

Yes, almost as stupid as removing local without a better game mechanic to replace it.



please look at THIS

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946

and then scroll to the bottem and read the INTEL SECTION,

Now go feel stupid for wasting your time typing the above words.

Now why would I feel stupid, when they have made exactly the same point I just did... repeatedly.

You might pay particular attention to this part:

Quote:
Strong tools for collecting and sharing ◦To support the other goals here, tools should be available for collecting and sharing intel that minimize the amount of rote work, particularly documentation, that players need to engage in. This frees up their attention for collaboration, analysis and decision-making.


There is a large amount of work that will have to be done before you can simply "remove local". New systems will have to be planned and developed... many of which will need to work hand in glove with other major game mechanics.

Gathering intel is going to take a lot of work to flesh out properly, into a believable and engaging area of gameplay... and that is going to take quite some time to develop.

Stop being a jackass.

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