EVE New Citizens Q&A

(To devs/readers: sorry if this is a duplicated posting. My previous submission wigged out when I tried to submit.)

First let me say, thanks to those that are willing to stick with this long post. Also, let me say that I am extremely new. I have completed the Aura tutorials, and as of last night also have the exploration tutorial missions under my belt. Outside of the basics that are taught in those lesson, I know zero. In fact, I am probably only about 75% - 80% on those tutorial lessons at this point. Basically, I have absolutely no clue what I am doing, but I am truly enjoying the experience of learning! EVE is something I had wanted to try many times in the past, but never took the plunge. I also come from a background of traditional MMOs, so I am still 'unlearning' some of the habits/themes that have been ingrained in me.

Also, know that I tend to be very patient, and I don't mind investing a good bit of time/energy/ISK in something to get extra fun out of an aspect of the game. I am always up for a new challenge, or getting into something new and different for a fun experience.

Having said all of that, I wanted to take a moment to look to the community here for a bit of direction on where to focus my efforts, based on what I currently look forward to getting into. So here are a few questions, and some background on my expected play style...

I will start with the time I have to devote to my EVE endeavors, as I know that has some significant impact on how I will proceed. As a general rule, I don't ever schedule time around game time. However, my weekends and evenings usually leave me with at least a solid amount of time to play when I don't have plans. On a free weekend, I can waste an entire day or two, and during the week I usually have at least a couple of hours to jump in most evenings.

Question 1: With that in mind, my first question is in regards to corporations. I really want to get into the corporation side of the game. But, I worry that being a brand new player, with no concrete schedule to devote to game time/events. I say that based mostly on my time spent in other MMOs. Raiding, questing, etc. usually require a bit more commitment as far as promised time to guildies. Are corporations similar in time and commitment expectations? I know that it may be a generalization, and that no matter what the answer, there are going to be groups that are going to be different, but my question is just in general. I don't want to get into something only to find that it is beyond my reach in regards to time.

Question 2: The crafting/market aspect of the game really interests me as well. I am actually an investment banker by trade in RL, so I am very much a numbers and market guy, once I get familiar with a system and learn to navigate it...which can take me a while when it comes to games. I was considering the idea of running a few different characters, and setting one up as a sort of shop character. Maybe crafting for hire? Would that be a viable option? If so, how would I go about getting set up in that way? In my mind, I would assume I would need a character set up with some decent offensive hardware, along with mining/gathering rigs to allow him/her to obtain the materials and ISK required to allow for inventory for the crafting character...if that makes sense. But, I am open to suggestion in this area, as I know that model might not be the best one for a game like EVE.

Question 3: I also like creative PvP options. That's one aspect of EVE that really drew me in. The same old cookie cutter capture the flag, wash, rinse, repeat PvP structures bore me to no end. But, the idea of causing chaos in null sec as a pirate or gun for hire (once I am experienced and equipped to allow it) really interests me. The only thing is I have no idea where to truly start when it comes to getting involved with this sort of thing. I know I can grab some guns and just run around firing on strangers, but I also know I wouldn't last long doing that. So, how does one get plugged into the more structured side of pirating/hunting/etc.? I assume this is something a corp. would get you involved in, but I would love some feedback on where a rookie like myself would be best advised to go. Or, if anyone has an 'in' with a corp. that could raise me to be a bloodthirsty, yet honorable killing machine...let me know. :)

I tend to enjoy some of the nerdier aspects of games like this. The stats, fitting a ship, customizing, etc. I tend to be a bit of a 'collector' gamer with these types of games (always feel compelled to get all the pets/mounts in WOW, all the crystal colors/speeders in SWTOR, etc.). So, I expect to feed that sickness in this game with a ship collection...assuming that is a possible option. This one isn't so much a question, as it is some background for those that might want to provide some suggestions/direction based on it. I know that is very general, but if you have any ideas or pointers on how I can really get into that sort of activity, please feel free to share.


I will stop there. I have about a billion more questions on pretty much everything the game has to offer, but I have already written a novel. Thanks in advance to anyone that was willing to read all of that, and an extra thanks up front to those that have some replies for me!

PS: excuse any crazy spelling/grammatical errors. I typed this bad boy in a hurry as I am about to head out the door from my office. :)

Hey there and welcome to EVE!

Basically all of your concerns can be covered by joining a corp. But the issue is finding the right corp.
With your playtime i wouldent imagion it being hard to find a corp that does hard core pvp/piracy/sov holder/whatever but many of these corps will have CTA's,online requierments and some will have SP requierments.
But you also have to remember (you mentioned being interested in piracy) is that many will have completely different views on what IS piracy. So you might want to be a bit more specific about this one when you start looking for a corp.
As in,are you interested in large fleet fights,the small roaming gangs,high sec suecide ganking,war deccing carebear corps,becoming a merc, sit and gate gamp a low sec system and blow up noobs and haulers coming trough...there are so many variables.

Now if you want to get into industry...This is something a corp could also easier help you with since many corps have BPO's and so on you can use to build from,are willing to buy your minerals, have mining operations you can participate in, have acess to easy ME/PE research without the month long wait and so on. But you mentioned you are patient so this is something you can do alone as well. Find a smaller BPO (modules as an example) that brings you some decent profit and work yoru way up. Advance your BPO collection with your skills.

Im adding in a link to a post that will help you when your ready to find a corp. Please rember to read over the replies as well since there is a lot of things that were not covered in the first posts. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943&find=unread

I wish you the best of luck and i hope you find what your looking for

PS. Dont be suprised if no one leaves posts here offering you to join their corp. Recruitment is not allowed in this section of the forum.

Tip: Make your communications brief, and to the point. It makes the writing more likely to have been read by others.

Sometimes this means spreading your questions across multiple posts, and/or allowing your responders to re-tread ground and say things you already know, since nominally you'd axe any non-critical preamble/context.

I did not read your post. I say this with the best intentions, as a fellow person prone to detrimentally excessive communication.

Good luck.

Hello and welcome to EVE!

I am going to skip your other questions since they were answered really well.

In regards to question 2, you don't have to craft anything to make a sizeable amount of ISK. Trading is a very profitable method of making ISK in EVE. In EVE the market is really well designed from an economic point of view. As you explore the market options you will discover that if you wanted to you could even act as an investment banker in the game. Although, since you do that in real life I dunno if you'd want play the game the same way ;)

In regards to industry - there is a definite need for industrial characters all over the game. You can become an 'industrial mogul' if you want to go that route. It will take more time than getting into the market (essentially for trading you can do it from day one since you can buy up stuff in the starting system and move it elsewhere for resale at a higher price - just remember when figuring out much you 'make' to take into consideration the opportunity cost of moving the goods to market) but it is definitely something that is worthwhile.

Just a note: there are some items out there that will not make you any profit at all. In fact, if you try to make them and sell them you'd be losing money. This is done, on purpose, by established industrial players who want to keep the competition out. As with all things in EVE the more time into research you put in the more you will get out.

Good luck with EVE and I hope you have a great time.

I'd suggest avoiding nul-sec until you join a corp. And preferably to wait 'til you've earned a bit of savings so that when you lose your ship(and you will), it wont feel like a financial gut-punch.

In theory all the cool stuff happens in low/null-sec. In practice, nothing but frustration awaits until you have the support or knowledge or SP, etc.
Usually.

The thing about Eve is that on one hand, if you jump into the deep end early(and you certainly can), it might end up being a crappy experience. On the other hand, if you stay in high-sec just doing missions or mining or whatever, you will probably get bored. From what I've experienced so far, the real key is getting into a corp that aggressively keeps their members busy. So when you're looking for a corp, you'll probably want to ensure they've got a solid plan in store for their recruits, and treat you like an asset.

That's my take on it, anyways...

GL.

Contact me and i'll try to add you into whatever we're doing at the time. This can include anything from mission running to death at the hands of a large blob of battlecruisers. Scary tho this sounds it will also be a lot of fun :D