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Our Christmas present to FW

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#321 - 2013-01-04 15:27:47 UTC
mental...

Mich Farmer wrote:
Lev Arturis wrote:
Because it is a game?


Still does not change the fact that enemy is seeking to hinder an activity you engage on your free time and (may) pay money to participate in. So again, why be polite to an enemy?

I can understand you may attempt to portray yourself as friendly but this is just a smokescreen for smugness when you know that in the end the enemy is massively outnumbered in all fronts and you can afford to appear as "guy who is only here for decent pvp".

nom nom
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#322 - 2013-01-04 16:00:13 UTC
Mich Farmer wrote:
Perhaps you can answer this one: Why should anyone be polite to an enemy since his only function in eve is to make your existence as miserable as possible? (and vice versa of course)
The man has a point.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#323 - 2013-01-04 16:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Mich Farmer wrote:
Of course when all systems were taken, people like Chatgris and X Gal went to forums saying "We would plex but teh evil ECM!" (ignoring the fact that fof missiles and drones have been invented) and "system is unfair, we wont do it until it's changed".


Confirming that Damar thinks that plexing while unable to lock things is the way to go. I mean, I could totally pvp by screaming "HONOUR TACKLE" in local and spamming my f.o.f missile Lol. Assuming I could survive the missile spam. (Missile spam was nothing compared to the turrets you could tkae 0 damage at 30km from, but that's all in the past, things are nice and balanced now.)

Mich Farmer wrote:

And quess what? CCP changed the mechanics exactly how gallentes wanted. They got massive plex spawns at downtime and stealth nerf to caldari ECM (both unannounced changes). And CCP has continued this trend ever since with Dominion Debacle, ninja patching and so forth.


Massive plex spawns at downtime?!? That is the REVERSE. Caldari got all plexes primarily because downtime was pretty much all that matterred and there were no plexes in systems that matterred in the later timezones, and secondarily because of the rat imbalances. Now that these two imbalances have been removed (not favouring either side!) We're starting to see who is winning the sov war. There's still a slight downtime advantage, but nothing like what it used to be (maybe 2-3 hours worth of extra plexes at dt if you are lucky, it's possible for the gallente to counter that during the rest of the day).


Mich Farmer wrote:

Of course on the side the frogs made their whole PR campaign about "Caldari militia being exploiters" and so forth, trying their damnest to prop up an illusion that not a single pvp incident occurred during this whole time. And it was pretty succesful, as was demonstrated by some random Johnny Foreigner from Electus Matari (in local gaming convention) who told me straight up that "Everybody knows Caldari just exploited it all".


Hey, you keep arguing with the GM's on the forums that they are biased towards Gallente because they threatened you with the ban hammer for exploiting, it's good fun :D

One day, I hope you find reality.
Juan Rayo
Justified Chaos
#324 - 2013-01-04 16:30:44 UTC
Jess Conell wrote:
First day as the storm on Eha has begun , we have really great fights.
Both sides throwing ships in plexes like ammunition.
Both sides take losses and wins.

Jess


I just came back yesterday and from what I´m told you guys in Eha have put up a fight just as HE and others did in Rakapas, and as other Caldari are doing in different systems. Much respect to you fellas. There´s a great disconnect between the most.... vocal caldari here in the forums crying foul and saying it´s over already and those of you fighting on the field.

Looking foward to the action in Eha!.
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#325 - 2013-01-04 20:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
Mich Farmer wrote:
ALUCARD 1208 wrote:
as for corina baiting for us is just pure fantasy but hay keep making urself look stupid on things u know nothing about its causing great amusement to our pilots


Damn. So Corina sitting on plex gate with armageddon while I repeatedly gate crashed your gang of three oneiroses and random hacs in my venture was just a massive overview glitch?

Also, you did actually have numbers to engage inside said plex in even (you had 1-2 more, we were setup inside) but typical to your alliance, rather than bringing the fight and possibly losing it and at least losing several frigates (the horror) you tried plant an obvious bait and brought ahac gang for frigates.

And of course, according to the frogs we were the "lamers" when we decided not to leave the plex for the bait.



SPDR flyin oneiroses and random hacs screenshots please so they can be kicked Big smile.................... Jason will be mad hes a died in the wool gaurdian and zealot fanboi



And quess what? CCP changed the mechanics exactly how gallentes wanted. They got massive plex spawns at downtime and stealth nerf to caldari ECM (both unannounced changes). And CCP has continued this trend ever since with Dominion Debacle, ninja patching and so forth. <<<<<< please itterate on this more im sure our ccp overlords would like to know more about this

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#326 - 2013-01-04 22:18:38 UTC
Jess Conell wrote:

The Numbers are normal, no one can prevent X´ses but if were outnumbered is it really needed to bring Offgrid Boosters?


"Most of the doctrines we will deploy will be tech 1, giving everyone a fair chance to counter us."


Yeah, don't think OGB is needed for Eha. OMS and Ladistier. Now that's another story....

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#327 - 2013-01-04 22:43:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Squatdog
Quote:


Yes, we recalled all the people playing planetside, all the people semi afk on comms, all the people we could from us tz corps like hyper nova, qcats and slapd and STILL managed to be outnumbered by 10 or so dudes. Once the fight kicked off another 50 people jumped in against us. Yet we still have to answer for the high crime of blobbing? You make zero sense.


In your own words, you managed to blob three carriers with no less than 15 caps on short notice, with most of Gallente in bed or 'playing Planetside'.

Thanks for pointing out the massive disparity in numbers, even outside your main timezone.
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#328 - 2013-01-04 22:54:52 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Yes, we recalled all the people playing planetside, all the people semi afk on comms, all the people we could from us tz corps like hyper nova, qcats and slapd and STILL managed to be outnumbered by 10 or so dudes. Once the fight kicked off another 50 people jumped in against us. Yet we still have to answer for the high crime of blobbing? You make zero sense.


In your own words, you managed to blob three carriers with no less than 15 caps on short notice, with most of Gallente in bed or 'playing Planetside'.

Thanks for pointing out the massive disparity in numbers, even outside your main timezone.


That's cos Gallente have there **** together and have a teamwork / comradary ethic and are not arguing, segregated, torn apart scrubs - no offence.
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#329 - 2013-01-04 23:09:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Squatdog
Gallactica wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Yes, we recalled all the people playing planetside, all the people semi afk on comms, all the people we could from us tz corps like hyper nova, qcats and slapd and STILL managed to be outnumbered by 10 or so dudes. Once the fight kicked off another 50 people jumped in against us. Yet we still have to answer for the high crime of blobbing? You make zero sense.


In your own words, you managed to blob three carriers with no less than 15 caps on short notice, with most of Gallente in bed or 'playing Planetside'.

Thanks for pointing out the massive disparity in numbers, even outside your main timezone.


That's cos Gallente have there **** together and have a teamwork / comradary ethic and are not arguing, segregated, torn apart scrubs - no offence.


Translation: Gallente have a massive pan-timezone blob, based around alliances that couldn't survive in Nullsec (ShadowWolves LOL!) and instead get their jollies from big a big fish in a small pond and hump their Titan all day, hoping for a cheap gank.
Wey'oun
Snuffed Out
#330 - 2013-01-04 23:09:57 UTC
Gallactica wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Yes, we recalled all the people playing planetside, all the people semi afk on comms, all the people we could from us tz corps like hyper nova, qcats and slapd and STILL managed to be outnumbered by 10 or so dudes. Once the fight kicked off another 50 people jumped in against us. Yet we still have to answer for the high crime of blobbing? You make zero sense.


In your own words, you managed to blob three carriers with no less than 15 caps on short notice, with most of Gallente in bed or 'playing Planetside'.

Thanks for pointing out the massive disparity in numbers, even outside your main timezone.


That's cos Gallente have there **** together and have a teamwork / comradary ethic and are not arguing, segregated, torn apart scrubs - no offence.


Confirming the above to be true


Drunk 'n' Disorderly Declares War Against Silver Pigs
From: CONCORD
Sent: 2013.01.04 22:59

Drunk 'n' Disorderly has declared war on Silver Pigs.
Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. For your convenience we have included the appropriate CONCORD War Rules
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#331 - 2013-01-04 23:11:55 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
Gallactica wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Yes, we recalled all the people playing planetside, all the people semi afk on comms, all the people we could from us tz corps like hyper nova, qcats and slapd and STILL managed to be outnumbered by 10 or so dudes. Once the fight kicked off another 50 people jumped in against us. Yet we still have to answer for the high crime of blobbing? You make zero sense.


In your own words, you managed to blob three carriers with no less than 15 caps on short notice, with most of Gallente in bed or 'playing Planetside'.

Thanks for pointing out the massive disparity in numbers, even outside your main timezone.


That's cos Gallente have there **** together and have a teamwork / comradary ethic and are not arguing, segregated, torn apart scrubs - no offence.


Translation: Gallente have a massive pan-timezone blob, based around alliances that couldn't survive in Nullsec (ShadowWolves LOL!) and instead get their jollies from big a big fish in a small pond and hump their Titan all day, hoping for a cheap gank.


Translation -Caldari haven't improved in any aspect in 3 years.
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#332 - 2013-01-04 23:16:20 UTC
Quote:


Translation -Caldari haven't improved in any aspect in 3 years.


The difference is that most of the big players from three years ago are out in Nullsec, instead of sand-bagging in FW.
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#333 - 2013-01-04 23:26:53 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Translation -Caldari haven't improved in any aspect in 3 years.


The difference is that most of the big players from three years ago are out in Nullsec, instead of sand-bagging in FW.


Which says a lot about the quality of the of those big players who actually chose to stay in the carebear land that is nullsec.
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#334 - 2013-01-04 23:58:20 UTC
chatgris wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Translation -Caldari haven't improved in any aspect in 3 years.


The difference is that most of the big players from three years ago are out in Nullsec, instead of sand-bagging in FW.


Which says a lot about the quality of the of those big players who actually chose to stay in the carebear land that is nullsec.


Except they're getting the large-scale fleet battles you claim to want, instead of blobbing in FW with massively one-sided odds.
Capitol One
Blue Canary
Watch This
#335 - 2013-01-05 00:46:48 UTC
Squatdog is such a delusional, angry little man...it makes me all sad inside :(
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#336 - 2013-01-05 01:05:30 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
Quote:


Yes, we recalled all the people playing planetside, all the people semi afk on comms, all the people we could from us tz corps like hyper nova, qcats and slapd and STILL managed to be outnumbered by 10 or so dudes. Once the fight kicked off another 50 people jumped in against us. Yet we still have to answer for the high crime of blobbing? You make zero sense.


In your own words, you managed to blob three carriers with no less than 15 caps on short notice, with most of Gallente in bed or 'playing Planetside'.

Thanks for pointing out the massive disparity in numbers, even outside your main timezone.


Im not sure you know what blobbing means. Sure, we deployed more caps to that fight than the caldari did. However, we did not at any point outnumber the caldari hence it is incorrect to accuse us of blobbing. Perhaps we outclassed the caldari. That is something i dont mind being accused of :)
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#337 - 2013-01-05 01:31:52 UTC
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue..."

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ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#338 - 2013-01-05 01:54:12 UTC
Cat Casidy wrote:
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue..."



Its ok cat by the looks of it squatdogs been sniffing plenty if u ask nice he may share Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Julius Foederatus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#339 - 2013-01-05 02:01:21 UTC
Ok first, everyone needs to stop using the whole "confirming that..." ****. It was a clever rhetorical device the first five times it was used, now it has lost its novelty.

Secondly, just stop engaging Damar. One of these days we're going to push him over the edge and then we'll hear about some massacre in Finland, and personally, I don't want that on my conscience.

Lastly, some of us who were around in the days when Gallente had no systems busted our asses and fought against pretty overwhelming odds for months to dig ourselves out of there, but we did it. We did it by not making excuses, by trying new techniques, and by not giving up. Maybe if you squiddies would do more of that then you wouldn't be getting your **** pushed in right now. But by all means, continue to whine about being outnumbered and outskilled. It's more flattery than us on the Gall side really deserve, but I'll take it.
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#340 - 2013-01-05 02:35:47 UTC
Capitol One wrote:
Squatdog is such a delusional, angry little man...it makes me all sad inside :(


Are you sad and angry that Wolfsbrigade failed as a Caldari corp, failed as an Amarr corp, failed as a Nullsec alliance (ShadowWolves LOL!) and now scrape by as an irrelevant Low Sec corp at the beck and call of DnD?