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State War Academy Caldari State 5,978
Marlona Sky State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 5,978	#21 - 2012-12-19 21:03:19 UTC 4 Parents expecting video games to raise their children and blaming everyone and everything but themselves non-shocker.

Dave Stark

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#22 - 2012-12-19 21:05:36 UTC

Az Tek wrote:

Dave stark wrote:

Alara IonStorm wrote:

There are probably more Americans now that play video games then don't and most of them have some level of violence.

So why every time your average run of the mill nut job does something heart crushingly to they read out a list of very average games played by the very average person their age. It is practically inevitable these days.

/Sigh

i just find it laughable that they'd rather ban a few video games than ban guns.

looking at other countries the difference is the lack of guns not the lack of video games.

Weapons are not the issue. PPL are the issue. Just 2 days before the shooting in CT a guy in Japan walked into an elementary school with a knife and started stabbing kids. If you take weapons away in the US, which can't be done even if they ban them. (there are to many in circulation) it will only take them out of the hands of honest people. Leaving most defenseless.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights.

*shrug* i live in a country without guns, with knives and video games, and i don't remember the last time some one went in to a school and butchered a bunch of people.

either way, banning video games won't do anything to stop things like this.

Az Tek

Overheat.Everything

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#23 - 2012-12-19 21:11:13 UTC

Dave stark wrote:

Az Tek wrote:

Dave stark wrote:

Alara IonStorm wrote:

There are probably more Americans now that play stuff

stuff

Banning neither of them will stop things like this. If there is a will there is a way.

The US, as far as Industrialized contries are concerned, is the leading nation world wide for deaths pertaining to shootings. Freedom is not with out it's price. Then again, the Us is not as free as people would like to say.

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Vincent Athena

Photosynth

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#24 - 2012-12-19 21:11:44 UTC

Dave stark wrote:

wondered how long it'd take before "adam lanza" and "violent games" were put in the same sentence.
longer than i expected, but it still happened.

In the case of games like Eve, what may be more relevant is putting "Adam Lanza", "mental illness" and "games that encourage harvesting of tears" together in the same sentence.

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Az Tek

Overheat.Everything

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#25 - 2012-12-19 21:13:10 UTC

Vincent Athena wrote:

Dave stark wrote:

wondered how long it'd take before "adam lanza" and "violent games" were put in the same sentence.
longer than i expected, but it still happened.

In the case of games like Eve, what may be more relevant is putting "Adam Lanza", "mental illness" and "games that encourage harvesting of tears" together in the same sentence.

To soon maybe?

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Nomistrav

Center for Advanced Studies

Gallente Federation

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#26 - 2012-12-19 21:13:19 UTC

Jesus christ, they don't even wait a week for the parents to mourn before swallowing up an opportunity for their own political agenda.

The Prohibition of Alcohol never stopped people from drinking.
The War on Drugs does not stop the distribution, possession or utilization of drugs.
The American-Mexican Border Patrol does not stop illegal immigrants from entering America.

Stricter Gun Laws and a more "in-depth look" at "violent" video games sure is **** not going to stop someone from using guns.

Take a look at Britain. In the year Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 there were 11,227 recorded offences involving firearms.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Bane Necran

Appono Astos

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#27 - 2012-12-19 21:15:30 UTC

Az Tek wrote:

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights.

Record sales have been reported all over the US for weapon sales in the last 72 hours. Stores selling out of rifles and pistols in a single day.

Everyone in Iraq has guns. People walking around with AK-47's all over the place. How is that working out for them?

All the guns in the world won't save you from tyranny or a modern army. They'll just fire a few hellfires or JDAMs, and blow your house up along with all your precious guns. I think most of the gun ban talk exists just to scare people into buying more guns, and they always do.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

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Varesk Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 678	#28 - 2012-12-19 21:18:16 UTC 2 Azitek wrote: Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. lol. keep believing that..

Az Tek

Overheat.Everything

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#29 - 2012-12-19 21:20:01 UTC

Bane Necran wrote:

Az Tek wrote:

So what do you purpose? Bend over and simply take it in A**? Give up? Allow it to happen with out a fight?

Bane Necran wrote:

I think most of the gun ban talk exists just to scare people into buying more guns, and they always do.

No, it's just how main stream media works here. It's horrible. The gun banning is extemly possible and some sort of gun control law to be passed is immanent.

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Az Tek Overheat.Everything Likes received: 9,044	#30 - 2012-12-19 21:21:23 UTC 4 Varesk wrote: Azitek wrote: Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. lol. keep believing that.. LOL! I didnt even see that. We live in one of the most 'filtered' countries in the world. It's citizens are just to daff and naive to see it. Fight, Fly, Crow... Bangerang

Dave Stark

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#31 - 2012-12-19 21:23:21 UTC

Nomistrav wrote:

and yet we've still, as far as i can remember, never had a school massacre in recent years. also "involving firearms" is misleading, not to mention without a "per capita" comparison your numbers mean absolutely nothing to anyone.

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2,368
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,368	#32 - 2012-12-19 21:23:54 UTC 2 this topic won't end well ~ Professional Forum Alt ~


Dave Stark Likes received: 7,950	#33 - 2012-12-19 21:25:15 UTC 1 Sentamon wrote: this topic won't end well but it'll be a damn sight more interesting and/or entertaining than any other thread on GD.

Ginger Barbarella

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#34 - 2012-12-19 21:36:38 UTC | Edited by: Ginger Barbarella

Before looking at entertainment, "our dear leaders" should look at the following instead:

PARENTING.
MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

Nuff said. I was raised by both parents in a loving household WITH GUNS, learned to shoot AND A RESPECT FOR FIREARMS AND OTHER PEOPLE at an early age, and have never--- even for a passing moment-- thought about shooting someone.

Our receptionist here recently called me over to her desk to look at a picture of the dude that shot up that theatre in Colorado recently. "Face of evil" was her only comment. I showed her a picture of Pol Pot, told her THAT was the face of evil, and the dude in Colorado was just a mentally unbalanced, ill individual who family, friends, and community ignored until it was too late. I don't advocate ratting on anyone, but those close to the Colorado guy KNEW something was up. And chemical issues in his brain made him snap one day.

Video games are just another distraction, not the cause for the "evil" we see these days. Let's put blame where it belongs.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac


Bane Necran Appono Astos Likes received: 1,793	#35 - 2012-12-19 21:36:39 UTC 1 Az Tek wrote: So what do you purpose? Bend over and simply take it in A**? Give up? Allow it to happen with out a fight. I think there are other ways to fight. "In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

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I SPIA Over Reaction Ligma Grindset Likes received: 2	#36 - 2012-12-19 21:37:31 UTC 1 why should we have to pay?? take the damn guns away and be done with it. who cares. Its not fair. what happened was a tragedy. And when a tradgedy this bad happens and this many people are killed something should be done about it.


Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,368	#37 - 2012-12-19 21:37:45 UTC 3 Marlona Sky wrote: Parents expecting video games to raise their children and blaming everyone and everything but themselves non-shocker. It's like watching news commentary, everyone blaming everyone but themselves and milking a tragedy for all ti's worth. Welcome to civilization. ~ Professional Forum Alt ~

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ACE McFACE Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,863	#38 - 2012-12-19 21:38:05 UTC 1 Good thing I don't live in America then. Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Az Tek

Overheat.Everything

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#39 - 2012-12-19 21:40:20 UTC

I SPIA wrote:

why should we have to pay?? take the damn guns away and be done with it. who cares. Its not fair. what happened was a tragedy. And when a tradgedy this bad happens and this many people are killed something should be done about it.

If your argument is that life isn't fair pick a number and get in line. Only a hand full of ppl on this planet are lucky enough to actually live life. The rest of us are just trying to surviving it.

Solution? Take guns away? Hardly. Much like a locked door will only keep an honest person honest do you think the people committing these crimes will no longer go out and shoot people simply because the law says they can't own a firearm? If there's a will there's a way as i said before.

And while on the subject of tragedies. As you said

I SPIA wrote:

And when a tradgedy this bad happens and this many people are killed something should be done about it.

The world has more people dying from obesity than malnutrition. If starving kids is a tragedy because they are suffering and dieing than obesity is, in it's self, more devastating and more tragic than starvation. Statistically it kills 99.3% more people than school violence each year. So if your scale is based on death... More than one-third of the U.S. Population (35.7%) is obese. 1 in 3 people. My solution? (If I in fact thought like you) Take away your rights to eat a hamburger.

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Dalmont Delantee Gecko Corp Likes received: 266	#40 - 2012-12-19 21:46:25 UTC 2 Guns don't kill people, access to them when your a nut job moron does.