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How long before you moved to low/null sec?

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Luke Visteen
#61 - 2012-12-21 15:57:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Luke Visteen
I deleted my mesage because I feel it does not match the amesomness I originally intended to convey here ....

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Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2012-12-21 16:39:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
One month (wormhole) / 4 mos. - low-sec / 1 yr. plus Null


2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
Joined an established corp.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
Too soon for the wormhole. Good timing otherwise.

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?
a) Don't join a wormhole corp where the CEO monitors how long it takes you to move your probes and tries (but fails) to humiliate your newbie self on TS.
b) Join for the people and the playstyle and ensure TZ compatibility. The rest will come.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-12-21 18:10:07 UTC
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#64 - 2012-12-21 18:11:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Johan Civire wrote:
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?


Answer : you don't.

Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever Pirate
Speak Silence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-12-21 18:12:31 UTC
1. Less than a week to low, a month to null.
2. No, I joined a pirate corp.
3. Yes, especially to null. I remember not being able to kill BS rats or be self-sufficient.
4. Don't forget to update your clone. Join an alliance with a new player support program. Be ready to have your spaceship blown up.

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-12-21 18:23:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Jenn aSide wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?


Answer : you don't.

Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever Pirate


I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got

High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid)

Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun)

Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local....

So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#67 - 2012-12-21 19:31:46 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?


Answer : you don't.

Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever Pirate


I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got

High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid)

Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun)

Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local....

So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun.


Notice how most of the posts mention getting over your fear, this is what its like when that hasnt happened yet. You just make endless excuses to yourself, not realising how stupid they look to someone whos already got past that point.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#68 - 2012-12-21 19:42:51 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?


Answer : you don't.

Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever Pirate


I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got

High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid)

Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun)

Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local....

So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun.


Notice how most of the posts mention getting over your fear, this is what its like when that hasnt happened yet. You just make endless excuses to yourself, not realizing how stupid they look to someone whos already got past that point.


Well said. I pointed this out in a recent thread about "what's keeping you from going to null sec". If the fear of loss in a video game keeps you from doing something or going somewhere in that video game, then that person's problems go beyond the bad choice they made in playing EVE.

There are legitimate and admirable reasons for staying in high sec (such as you like hi-sec activities even knowing that are not as rewarding as in other places, or bring super casual because of real life), but "fear of losing space pixels and imaginary money that can be instantly replaced" is not one of them.

I'm still not saying people should go to null, like you I'm just pointing out their excuses.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-12-22 03:14:42 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
The question is why do i need to go to low or zero sec?


Answer : you don't.

Some people ride bikes with Training Wheels forever Pirate


I dont ride bikes, like i say we dont need to go to low sec for some more isk because you balance the thing you lose in low sec or zero sec. So when you calculate the losses you lose more in that sectors then i high sec. So you get more isk and ride every horse you can find without trouble that some punk weekend warrior blows your ship inside a bubble i love eve to but not the pvp to get to zero sec. You got

High sec save 100% except jita (if you are not stupid)

Low sec 50% chance that you get killed by gate camps (sound fun)

Zero sec 100% chance That you get killed by people that are shitting there pants when unknow player(s) enter the local....

So the only thing i want to do that is to go to my corps and the bigger alliance.... Thats the only point not for the isk not for the fun.


Notice how most of the posts mention getting over your fear, this is what its like when that hasnt happened yet. You just make endless excuses to yourself, not realising how stupid they look to someone whos already got past that point.


No its not fear its pointless. Also this account is a alt...... So that is my income for my main. Now that we have that away. Sounds silly that you even try to beg people to come in low sec but let me say this. Eve is not all about pvp. Get that true your skulls for ones. PVP is a option if you want it or not sometimes your force to do pvp. But your main income is still pve..... Stop atack people in high sec like dumb idiots...... end of discusion. i have no time for trolling alts.
penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#70 - 2012-12-22 07:28:37 UTC
Chelly Tau wrote:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?


1. Took me about four days to move into null. Been there ever since (for the most part).
2. I joined GoonFleet, which was the predecessor to GoonWaffe, if you are a newer player and haven't heard of it.
3. I didn't move soon enough. I ran missions for three or four days while waiting for someone to process and accept my GoonFleet application. Mission running is terrible and I almost quit the game before my app got accepted.
4. My advice is to try and find a good corp and jump into low/null straight away. Also prepare to constantly be losing your ship and learn to embrace it. If you join a null-sec corp, try to avoid the blob warfare and learn small gang PvP instead.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-12-22 07:51:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
Chelly Tau wrote:

1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?
2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?
3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?
4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

1) About a week. I was brand new to EvE and following the advice of some random guy who recommend I go to nullsec within the first day after character creation. This was back in early 2008.

2) Yes, alone. I joined the first nullsec corporation I heard about (I don't remember who as it was not on this character).

3) I moved to nullsec far too soon. All I could afford were frigates which were not welcome. The corp at the time advertised themselves to be newbie friendly, but when I got out there I was left to my own devices. Belt rats would destroy anything I flew. I didn't make a single ISK out there. Everyone looked down on me for not flying the ships they wanted me to fly (I couldn't due to lack of skillpoints and lack of funding). They even yelled at me when all I had left to fly was the rookie ships. I rage quit and deleted my character.

4) What advice for those looking to go to nullsec? Don't. Just don't.
I've been back multiple times and every time I got burned, hard. Terrible alliance after terrible alliance after terrible alliance left me flat broke. The politics and general douch-baggery is actually worse in null then high/low/wh. With all the garbage and the empty promises these nullsec corps and alliances hand out, it's just not worth it.

I would go back to nullsec if I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the corp/alliance I was joining was worth a damn. So far I have yet to find any that are recruiting.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2012-12-22 08:49:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
1. How long did it take before you moved to low/null?

I was invited to EVE by nullsec irl friends. "play this game with us, come out to where we are." we went to Dennys while I autopiloted out to the edge of empire space. I thought autopilot was awesome.

2. Did you do it alone (for example, joined an established null corp), or moved as a group in a corp?

I was quite familiar with the corp's members after hearing them on teamspeak for quite a few months prior.

3. Looking back, do you feel you moved too soon, too late, or just at the right time for you?

perfectly fine to do it initially. benefits fast learners

4. What advice do you have for those that are looking into settling in low/null?

things will make sense -later-

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Elena Melkan
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
#73 - 2012-12-22 09:06:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Melkan
1. I moved to live in nullsec permanently when I had played the game for about a month.
2. I didn't go alone. There were couple of others like me who had gone through a great 3-weeks training programme. We were escorted by older guys of our corp, who scouted us a way safely to our nullsec space.
3. Just at the right time for me. When I started playing this game, I was kind of looking forward to PvP. I can only imagine how boring my life would have been if I had stayed in high sec. Our space is well-guarded, and now I can even PvE quite freely without having to worry getting blown up in my PvE ships. I don't miss mission running or anything like that at all.
4. Do it. Now. If you postpone it, you will never do it. And I think that, honestly, moving in is the hardest part, especially if you have a lot of ships and assets you'd like to bring with you. But once you have settled in your new home, things will get easier and most certainly better for you.