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Am I the only one who doesn't believe a word of Hilmar's blog?
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#21 - 2011-10-07 04:35:08 UTC
you're not alone... the guy is so full of it... he should step down...
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-10-07 04:36:07 UTC
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
I'm not sure he told us much about the game and a plan.. they still don't have a plan or a budget to come up with ways to lure people into small scale pvp situations.... they have wormhole and incursion mechancs that they could slap together in an amalgam and start itterating on until after a few months of throwing crap against the wall they get something good (i'm all for failing frequently and only counting successes.. but you'll have a lot more sucesses if you arent' afraid to keep trying things)

BUT


I said i a few times in the last few debacles. I believe the man was sick. And I don't mean that in a trolling way at all.

When you've live longer in the world, you get to see friends and colleagues sometimes implode... and its sad.

Often times something close to substance abuse, marital problems, but often more than that. I wouldn't rule out a bi-polar manic state.

The company was making certain decisions in an eratic manner.. contradicting themselves at times,,, and being forced to circle wagons on some things they knew themselves mad no sense (which has got to be demorlizing internally.. forced to dish **** to people you're friends with and respect ... that would suck)

There was someone at the top alternatively slamming the accelrator to the floor, then the brakes.. well i'll stop .. dont' have the time for good analogies.

I read a lot between the lines. His use of certain words.. the word "hubris" was a start... but there was more apology to his employees in there too ... when you mention two different things in one breath the two things put side by side often say a thrid and forth by implication.

I got the sense of a pretty intense self awareness of some wrecks he caused to other people's lives (and I'm not talking us customers in a lost my Loki sort of way).

I truly think he was mentally unstable.. hopefully it was just a stupid mid life crisis stage.. but those can wreak some havoc people around you.. spouses relaitves, colateral damages to kids ..etc.

TL;DR: I think Hilmar is crazy and/or unstable because CCP made a lot of decisions that I feel are completely random. Roll
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2011-10-07 04:37:16 UTC
I'm a pretty cynical and misanthropic kind of guy, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the guy. That isn't to say I trust the leadership yet, I see this as a relationship that has been violated and trust has to be rebuilt. This could be considered a start at least, but you know that we are all watching for what happens next.
"If."
Sturmwolke
#24 - 2011-10-07 04:38:08 UTC
Jason1138 wrote:
you'd think that, wouldn't you. you'd also think it'd be in their interests to release the next wave of t3's in less than 4 years, or to have a viable FW option, or for lowsec to have a point to it, or for PI to work properly, or for CQ to launch with more than 1 racial type and with more than 4 things in the closet and with more than 1 room for you to go into so...


EVE as a whole, is much greater than the trivial things you'd listed. Whatever you see now, however annoying, works to a certain degree.
Yes, it'll make a lot of people happy if they fixed the glaring issues that has been languishing for years, but what really matters in this case, is CCP's focus.

The real beef is their ungodly focus and questionable decisions regarding Incarna that got people up in arms for the past 2 years. The signs of trouble were already brewing and it was waiting to explode - which it did. Hilmar's blog, is more or less a statement saying that he recognizes that (the under-developed) Incarna must take a back-seat to polishing/enhancing the core EVE gameplay (FiS is really a misnomer). From this point on, it'll take time to re-tool their works and hopefully, we should start seeing something positive in the core gameplay for the Winter expansion ... however small.

What initially pulls subscription and people is a better gameplay (not bling blings). With improved gameplay, the sandbox will get more intrigue, more happenings, more drama, more interesting things to do or aim for - in other words, it keeps the community alive ... and growing. Incarna (at current iteration) is anti-thesis to the wellbeing of the community. Without the community, there is NO EVE - it's just an empty server called Tranquility. This should be drilled into the minds of the management folks at CCP when they make certain decisions.

If you feel like unsubscribing, go ahead. Long time regular players have learned to adapt to the ebb and flow of EVE, keeping the skilling up.
You never know when you'd be pulled back Blink
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#25 - 2011-10-07 04:49:15 UTC
Aiden Andraste wrote:
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
I'm..etc.

TL;DR: I think Hilmar is crazy and/or unstable because CCP made a lot of decisions that I feel are completely random. Roll


Random in a way that didnt' fit how they did things in the past.

Random in a way that put many employees in a bad spot.

Random in a way unchracteristic of some-one who previously made very rational decisions.


Read his own words.. they were about personality failures not simple buisness misjudgements.

I actually think is business judgements weren't all that bad if they'd been done in a more stable fashion...he says that and he's right...he's looking back to what he did right and wrong and he hadn't lost his long term vision nor his business savy to look to the future.

... it just got wreckless , navigating wtih blinders and ear muff on and a wicked scent of some thing waiting at some finish line.

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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#26 - 2011-10-07 05:01:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Diomedes Calypso
Actually, as i mentioned in simlar posts 6 months ago, sometimes the pressure of something like a severe medical condition or tradegy befalling a family member can initiate a reactionary state similar to the emotional crisis due to internal illnesses mostly unrelated to external events (sa, bi-polar, mid life crisis, philandering, ... and a laundry list of vices that can take a life of their own)

And I don't always think I'm right. I hypothosize then vet a theory.

If someone who knew the guy for 20 years said that Himlar had been the same guy tover the last 18 months that they had always known, treated people around him, and himself the way he always had before... I'd stand corrected.

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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
#27 - 2011-10-07 05:06:22 UTC
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
Actually, as i mentioned in simlar posts 6 months ago, sometimes the pressure of something like a severe medical condition or tradegy befalling a family member can initiate a reactionary state similar to the emotional crisis due to internal illnesses mostly unrelated to external events (sa, bi-polar, mid life crisis, philandering, ... and a laundry list of vices that can take a life of their own)

And I don't always think I'm right. I hypothosize then vet a theory.

If someone who knew the guy for 20 years said that Himlar had been the same guy tover the last 18 months that they had always known, treated people around him, and himself the way he always had before... I'd stand corrected.



Spell checker please.
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#28 - 2011-10-07 05:10:53 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
That's a fairly complicated situation you're describing. Simple answers are dismissed cause they are too easy. Why it happened isn't that important, but how they fix it is.

You know the old saying: "Focus on the solution, not the problem".
Lakhthaar
STK Scientific
#29 - 2011-10-07 05:13:42 UTC
Just wait and see what happens. No point in worrying too much about tomorrow. It will be here soon enough.

I will say though, if his letter to us is nothing but lip service, he's a shoe-in for the intergalactic douche bag hall of fame.
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#30 - 2011-10-07 05:15:29 UTC
non judgement wrote:
That's a fairly complicated situation you're describing. Simple answers are dismissed cause they are too easy. Why it happened isn't that important, but how they fix it is.



Its important on a human sense because people might witness similar patterns in people they have around them in the future and instead of getting pissed off, or thinking the person is a douche, they might get together with other people the person knows and try some sort of encounter or something to try to stop the damage.

If people aren't aware how those things pan out in life, they won't be prepared to help people in the future.

Thats why i bring it up.

And yes, I've had some personal experience with people around me affected by the diseases i desribed.

People can help

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#31 - 2011-10-07 05:16:09 UTC
Jason1138 wrote:
i'm not sure "leaving" before the subs run out would accomplish anything. if someone can show me it does i'll be glad to go


Peak Concurrent User metric. If you cancel your recurring subscription but keep playing, to CCP that only means that you're planning to keep paying using PLEX (which is better for them because it earns them more money).

So if you're quitting, cancel your subscription and quit playing. Send a letter to CCP, make sure you take their exit survey and let them know why you quit. Don't keep playing, don't keep posting on the forums, stop being active at all and show them that you are actually quitting and not just storming off to the pub to have a drink with your mates before coming back to cop more of the same.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-10-07 05:29:22 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
With that blog, metaphorically speaking, he's actually putting a knife to his throat.
If he doesn't follow through, the community backlash (and reputation hit) will create an even bigger shitstorm (like never before) ... so it's really in his interest to make it happen Big smile


Oh cool, we can say shitstorm. I wonder if we can still say bukkake.
mkint
#33 - 2011-10-07 05:57:22 UTC
If you go with the relationship analogy, my bags are still packed. I'm still looking for somewhere else to go. If something else comes up, I'm probably out the door. Does that make me a bad person?

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#34 - 2011-10-07 06:00:23 UTC
Jason1138 wrote:
Maybe i'm just totally and completely cynical, and I've been lied to so often that I can't see how sincere he is now that he's finally seen the light or whatever


but i swear all i hear when i read that blog is "ok enough of you have un-subbed that i'm finally scared. please believe for the 10th time that I've gotten serious about this game and come back for awhile"


I thought that when everyone made such a fuss about rocket rebalancing (among other things) and Hilmar came on here and was like "ok ok i get it now. i'll fix eve" that THEN was the time he was finally on board with us and everything would be better? wasn't that what he said then?

just seems like more of the same now, and I honestly don't believe a word of it. I want to, but i don't. So am i the bitterest of bitter vets or is that pretty much what everyone else is thinking too?



It's ok... it's ok..

come here.

/me holds OP head in my broad sholders.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#35 - 2011-10-07 06:07:54 UTC
mkint wrote:
If you go with the relationship analogy, my bags are still packed. I'm still looking for somewhere else to go. If something else comes up, I'm probably out the door. Does that make me a bad person?

No. It means you like long goodbyes.
Why bother wasting your time here when you could be somewhere else having heaps of fun?
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#36 - 2011-10-07 06:08:55 UTC
non judgement wrote:
mkint wrote:
If you go with the relationship analogy, my bags are still packed. I'm still looking for somewhere else to go. If something else comes up, I'm probably out the door. Does that make me a bad person?

No. It means you like long goodbyes.
Why bother wasting your time here when you could be somewhere else having heaps of fun?


World of Tanks?

PERPETUUM ONLINE?!



Hah..

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Vyl Vit
#37 - 2011-10-07 06:09:28 UTC
Well, it's really immaterial whether one believes it or not. What such a statement does is commit the author to actions. If these actions are carried out speaks for itself. It's like when you kept promising your parents you really would be in by 10 "next time." They didn't believe you either. They watched the clock, then the door. If you didn't come striding in at ten, so much for that song.

Another way to look at it is, Hilmar admitted to a lot of mistakes, faults and shortcomings. Making such things public is not what corporations normally do. Normally they pretend something isn't there, that complaints are from the fringe few, and then they do what they want regardless. I tend to believe Hilmar because he did go out on a limb with his admissions. I'm not one who requires apologies from people. No "cool kid" does. It's not that I don't believe them. It's that I don't need someone humbling themselves to me to make me feel okay.

In the end, as we're all supposed to know, talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. It's just that all this text looks so neat on this forum I can't resist pounding the keys as a form of digital nailbiting.

tl;dr Prove to me you're as honest as your standard for others, then I'll worry about whom you believe...or not.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-10-07 06:10:44 UTC
Jason1138 wrote:
Maybe i'm just totally and completely cynical, and I've been lied to so often that I can't see how sincere he is now that he's finally seen the light or whatever


but i swear all i hear when i read that blog is "ok enough of you have un-subbed that i'm finally scared. please believe for the 10th time that I've gotten serious about this game and come back for awhile"


I thought that when everyone made such a fuss about rocket rebalancing (among other things) and Hilmar came on here and was like "ok ok i get it now. i'll fix eve" that THEN was the time he was finally on board with us and everything would be better? wasn't that what he said then?

just seems like more of the same now, and I honestly don't believe a word of it. I want to, but i don't. So am i the bitterest of bitter vets or is that pretty much what everyone else is thinking too?


Clearly bittervet. You know, a cynic would immediately realize that the community is in most cases equally full of %&(&.
Take a look at the forums. People are good at whining around and that´s it.

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#39 - 2011-10-07 06:19:01 UTC
I'd give the blog a passing grade. A solid D.

It kinda reminds me of this

Do I believe that Hilmar's motives for writing it were pure (i.e. that he truly feels awful for ******* over his long-time customers)? No.

Do I believe that subscription numbers plummeting have convinced him to allocate more resources to FiS? Yes, but I could be wrong. Nothing CCP does surprises me anymore.

I'm disappointed that the word 'sandbox' doesn't appear once in the blog. Nor a personal apology to CSM V, whose hard work was all for naught and who were completely ignored/dismissed.

The blog was very late and very flawed. But it has its good bits and is marginally better than nothing.
Zarutha
The Night Crew
#40 - 2011-10-07 06:34:47 UTC
I really enjoy this game, there is no other mmo that has kept me subbed like Eve. Reading his post, I felt it was from the heart. It also felt polished by a publicist or two, but still the sentiment was there.