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If null sec is so bad Why the heck do you live there?????

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Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#1 - 2012-12-18 20:26:03 UTC
Buff null!

Nerf Hi Sec!

Buff low sec!

Nerf High sec mining, hauling, industry!

Null sec needs moar of everything!

Take more away from high sec!

Seriously, if it is so bad why do you live there?

Because you are kill mail junkies IMO. You just don't realize or care or understand that quite alot of the players in Eve DO NOT FREAKIN ENJOY LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER ALL THE TIME!

I personally play this game to relieve stress, not to create it. You play your way and if the cess pit you have made of null and low sec is what you want then enjoy.

Some of you spend so much time here on the forums I doubt you play much anyway.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-12-18 20:32:34 UTC
Actually the current state of null income for line members reflects the risk vs reward there. No buff needed.
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-12-18 20:33:22 UTC
boy ima bounty you n pop you upside the head for being that dumb.

pay more attention in class when school resumes.
Mac Tir
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-12-18 20:34:56 UTC
Pride
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#5 - 2012-12-18 20:43:13 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
boy ima bounty you n pop you upside the head for being that dumb.

pay more attention in class when school resumes.



Like I said, a Cess Pit and you are no doubt one of the floaters.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#6 - 2012-12-18 20:46:27 UTC
Not trolling at all. I seriously want to know why people live there ingame if it sucks so bad. I mean it must suck because a vast majority of the topics here are about why null sec sucks compared to high sec.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

No More Heroes
Sanctuary of Shadows
Dock Workers
#7 - 2012-12-18 20:50:30 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Not trolling at all. I seriously want to know why people live there ingame if it sucks so bad. I mean it must suck because a vast majority of the topics here are about why null sec sucks compared to high sec.


I live here because my friends live here. Also- in the tutorial I was promised by Aura that I could carve out an empire for myself. Don't see that happening in highsec Smile

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2012-12-18 20:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Buff null!

Nerf Hi Sec!

Buff low sec!

Nerf High sec mining, hauling, industry!

Null sec needs moar of everything!

Take more away from high sec!

Seriously, if it is so bad why do you live there?

Because you are kill mail junkies IMO. You just don't realize or care or understand that quite alot of the players in Eve DO NOT FREAKIN ENJOY LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER ALL THE TIME!

I personally play this game to relieve stress, not to create it. You play your way and if the cess pit you have made of null and low sec is what you want then enjoy.

Some of you spend so much time here on the forums I doubt you play much anyway.


The answer is "we don't".

Many of us would prefer to (live in null) , but because of the current state of things, it's easier to just run missions and incursions or afk mine or build stuff in High Sec with little risk of being killed rather than make the same or slightly more isk in null..

You want us to leave you alone, support the Null Sec Independence Movement, which can happen for only a measly 15% of reduction your income and some industry upgrades from CCP. THEN we'll leave you alone.

Of course that means you'll go broke because WE ARE YOUR MARKET (call it the price of your ignorant short-sightedness) , but hey, at least you won't have nerf high sec threads to be forced at gunpoint to read.
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#9 - 2012-12-18 20:58:06 UTC
I didn't ask you to leave me alone, do your worst. I just want to know why people live there if it sucks so bad?

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#10 - 2012-12-18 20:58:43 UTC
look people want all the benefits of high sec in terms of money making without everpresent concord in case they want to shoot things

what they want is utopia,eve was desinged to be cold,harsh,unbalanced,unfair place with god giving you middle finger every time you log in

its unfair to shoot defenseless miner the same way its unfair to make more money in high sec

it was designed that way,it doesnt make sense and it doesnt have to make sense because nobody gave out rights to players

you have no right,you are on your own,nobody cares and nothing will change

pay your 15 bucks and stfu





Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-12-18 21:07:33 UTC
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
look people want all the benefits of high sec in terms of money making without everpresent concord in case they want to shoot things

yeah you just made our case for us thanks duder

sending dis post to ccp entitled "i told you the balance was out of whack"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Rengerel en Distel
#12 - 2012-12-18 21:14:34 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
look people want all the benefits of high sec in terms of money making without everpresent concord in case they want to shoot things

yeah you just made our case for us thanks duder

sending dis post to ccp entitled "i told you the balance was out of whack"


"Yeah, all the trade hubs where all the money is made is in high sec, that's whack!"

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-18 21:15:25 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:

Because you are kill mail junkies IMO. You just don't realize or care or understand that quite alot of the players in Eve DO NOT FREAKIN ENJOY LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER ALL THE TIME!

I personally play this game to relieve stress, not to create it. You play your way and if the cess pit you have made of null and low sec is what you want then enjoy.


^words of wisdom. Now wait for all the nullbears to come hating on your post because the truth hurts lol
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Morganta
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
#14 - 2012-12-18 21:18:20 UTC
I don't like neutrals
LOL56
We Aim To MisBehave
The Initiative.
#15 - 2012-12-18 21:20:01 UTC
ITS PRETTY SIMPLE, I LIKE CAP SHIPS AND DON'T LIKE GATE GUNS. I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INCOME IN ADVANCE OF THOSE WITH CONCORD PROTECTION WHEN I HAVE ONLY SOCIAL PROTECTION THAT TAKES A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT TO BUILD, AND IS LESS EFFECTIVE THAN CONCORD. ALSO BECAUSE I LIKE TARGETS, AND IF PVE WAS WORTHWHILE IN NULLSEC THERE WOULD BE WAY MORE TARGETS TO KILL, WHICH WOULD MEAN I COULD ROAM MORE OFTEN AND FOR SHORTER PERIODS.

ALSO I APOLOGIZES FOR THE CAPS, BUT I'M USING REVIT 2013 (A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING PROGRAM) AND IT IS 1249503446534 TIMES EASIER IF YOU LEAVE CAPS LOCK ON.
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-12-18 21:24:34 UTC
I was essentially born in nullsec. Technically, I started the game at some Pator Tech School in minmatar space, but within a week I was living 99% in nullsec. I go to highsec to buy things and shoot people sometimes.

But now that I'm used to a nullsec lifestyle, I can't really stand being in highsec for any length of time. I know getting weirded out by all the neutrals in every system is all in my head, but aside from Jita I almost never see any one chatting in local. All these people silently doing whatever highsec people do.

And all the aggression rules are frustrating when you are use to being able to shoot any one at any time. I know some people pride themselves on bending these rules for fun and profit, and I appreciate the effort that goes into that. But all these rules are just too contrived for me to really get immersed in it.

Over all, my life in nullsec is more rewarding and more interesting. The isk to me made is pretty good, if you are smart and are willing to put up with some extra effort. And if hostiles show up, I know I can just undock in a combat ship and go shoot them. No mucking around with wardecs or fretting over how to get agro and avoid NPC involvement.



I do think some people are blowing the "nullsec sucks" way out of proportion.

I think some people are frustrated that the only big isk making opportunities available to individuals are pretty much limited to shooting red crosses. Forum warriors love the rebut with "Tech moons" but only part of nullsec has tech moons, and the other moon minerals just barely pay for fuel costs.

And even shooting rats plateaus at a certain point, when the income becomes a matter of luck on loot drops. I've seen plenty of my own corp mates roll alts to do things like datacore farming, FW farming, highsec industry, all because it was more regular and predictable than flying all over nullsec just to pick up some Overseers Effects.

Nullsec is in a rut where the only activities are either (A) doing the gimped sov grind, (B) ratting, and (C) trying to gank ratters. Their isn;t much opportunity to do anything else or ambush people doing anything else.

For an area of the game that is supposed to be wide open and molded by the players, the actual activities available are really quite limiting.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-12-18 21:25:11 UTC
NULL is like the bad ol' days of the Klondike and the California gold rushes.... so many made the trip... so few actually found what they were looking for.

The foolish, ended up dead along the way.

Some, never came back.

A few, lived to tell about it.

The rest... got out while the getting was good.

The End.

Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-12-18 21:29:37 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
NULL is like the bad ol' days of the Klondike and the California gold rushes.... so many made the trip... so few actually found what they were looking for.

The foolish, ended up dead along the way.

Some, never came back.

A few, lived to tell about it.

The rest... got out while the getting was good.

The End.

Roll


don't quit your day job
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-12-18 21:30:21 UTC
I live in null sec because:

Refine rates are better because of my standings.

There is always ore to mine.

There is always a production line open for me to use.

I can easily find mods and at great prices.

Everything I make sells rather fast.

I can easily find a lvl 4 mission hub.

Oh wait I thought you were asking abut highsec my bad yeah I dont live in null.

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Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#20 - 2012-12-18 21:33:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mistah Ewedynao
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
I was essentially born in nullsec. Technically, I started the game at some Pator Tech School in minmatar space, but within a week I was living 99% in nullsec. I go to highsec to buy things and shoot people sometimes.

But now that I'm used to a nullsec lifestyle, I can't really stand being in highsec for any length of time. I know getting weirded out by all the neutrals in every system is all in my head, but aside from Jita I almost never see any one chatting in local. All these people silently doing whatever highsec people do.

And all the aggression rules are frustrating when you are use to being able to shoot any one at any time. I know some people pride themselves on bending these rules for fun and profit, and I appreciate the effort that goes into that. But all these rules are just too contrived for me to really get immersed in it.

Over all, my life in nullsec is more rewarding and more interesting. The isk to me made is pretty good, if you are smart and are willing to put up with some extra effort. And if hostiles show up, I know I can just undock in a combat ship and go shoot them. No mucking around with wardecs or fretting over how to get agro and avoid NPC involvement.



I do think some people are blowing the "nullsec sucks" way out of proportion.

I think some people are frustrated that the only big isk making opportunities available to individuals are pretty much limited to shooting red crosses. Forum warriors love the rebut with "Tech moons" but only part of nullsec has tech moons, and the other moon minerals just barely pay for fuel costs.

And even shooting rats plateaus at a certain point, when the income becomes a matter of luck on loot drops. I've seen plenty of my own corp mates roll alts to do things like datacore farming, FW farming, highsec industry, all because it was more regular and predictable than flying all over nullsec just to pick up some Overseers Effects.

Nullsec is in a rut where the only activities are either (A) doing the gimped sov grind, (B) ratting, and (C) trying to gank ratters. Their isn;t much opportunity to do anything else or ambush people doing anything else.

For an area of the game that is supposed to be wide open and molded by the players, the actual activities available are really quite limiting.



Thanks for that answer. Very well put.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.

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