EVE General Discussion

The x5 is mainly to prevent alts collecting bounties on themselves. If someone IS griefing another player, the victim is welcome to petition the matter. Just because one person puts a bounty on another, it does not mean they are being griefed.

The x5 also cuts down on suicide ganking. If the target is flying a 10mil, to make any profit from suicide ganking you will have to fly a ship (with all fittings) at less than 2mil cost.

If someone just wanted to gain a few more killmails through suicide ganking, I highly doubt bounties would be included in their decision making.

Why should sec status go hand in hand with the ability to place a bounty on someone? The lowsec status still prevents low sec people from entering concord controlled space safely. Your high sec status allows you to fly in safer zones if you wish and not fear the wrath of concord. Your lawful status is working as intended.

There is not really a way this can be misused to disrupt gameplay. Is it preventing you from leaving stations? From mining or running missions? No, it does not. There is nothing preventing you from returning the "favor" of someone who places a bounty on you.

Again, there has yet to be a clear definition on how this mechanic can be used for griefing. I'm pretty sure that if someone wanted to grief, they would use method with a much larger impact than throwing money into the air. They would more than likely use alts to suicide gank and save their millions if they wanted to grief.

Ok, for RP purposes I do agree that a flashy red WANTED sign isn't very nice for some people. But again, bounties are not coexistent to faction standings and security status, they are separate entities. A bounty does not mean you are criminal. It means someone is willing to pay money to have you dead. That person may have lawful intentions (such as placing a bounty on a pirate) or unlawful intentions (a pirate placing a bounty on someone who prevented them from ambushing a miner). True, some people do it for fun and place bounties on random people, but unless you make yourself a viable kill, nobody is likely to attempt to claim it.

You say you havn't transgressed anyone ingame? I find that hard to believe. Every time you compete and succeed in the market for example, you are preventing someone else (likely just as lawful as you) from gaining profit. In my book, that's transgressing someone. If you and several friends mine an asteroid field of it's rarer ore, you are transgressing someone who may have been searching for that specific ore for the minerals. It's not griefing if say a market competitor places a bounty on you, you are in direct competition with them. They want you out of their way so they can maximize profit. Perhaps they want to cripple your progress for a while, at the same time as keeping their high security status.

Thanks for the unspoken confirmation that CCP is steadily changing Eve Online into Grief Online. Basically the past few expansions have pretty much shown that trend. I'm slowly starting to get annoyed and disgusted with this game and the company mentality of trying to force the majority to play this game the way the vocal minority wants everyone to play.

Because having CCP employees showing up on the list of players with the highest bounties is dumb, since you'll almost never get the opportunity to hunt them?

lol I'd like to know

I am completely fine with placing bounties just out of random feelings of spite.

Wow that's pretty hypocritical when they can't put the bounty on you don't cha think?

Oh that was you who put 100k on my Orca alt The only thing that pissed me off is the huge WANTED red thing on her pic after I spent so long to get her pose just right now 33% of it is covered >.> Seriously make that thing smaller or remove it completely unless the bounty is 500m or above ...