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Solo PVP is dead

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Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
#101 - 2012-12-26 18:43:46 UTC
Solo pvp is just fine IMO. There is no 1v1 though and I think that's what people get hung up on. Solo pvp is and always is about being outnumbered. If you can't handle that, don't solo.
Daniel Whateley
#102 - 2012-12-27 00:27:03 UTC
I was laughing hard when i saw this, but i guess there isn't many solo'ers out there anymore, you take a ship you fly it and attempt to get kills, it might take you a week to get the hang of it but youll get there, sure in a blob of hmm 8 oracles with a couple logi yea youll win fights, solo pvp isn't dead like everyone says, and for everyone who thinks solo pvp includes 1v1 fights, you might get 5 kills a week if your lucky with that and then be tricked for a drake bait or something, i've went out and solo'd for geez the past 6 months now, had a good month of kills Vs. Test one month 130kills and only 26 losses 85% of them were solo, most of the time i was outnumbered at least 5:1, and whenever you actually are in fleets, do you only obey FC's orders do you actually know how to survive solo if he was to get a bluescreen or his internet bug out on him or even catch him out on his mistakes, i never run with fleets anymore, because they're too cautious and will never fight anything if theres 1 ship too many.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#103 - 2012-12-27 22:56:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Daniel Whateley wrote:
I was laughing hard when i saw this, but i guess there isn't many solo'ers out there anymore, you take a ship you fly it and attempt to get kills, it might take you a week to get the hang of it but youll get there, sure in a blob of hmm 8 oracles with a couple logi yea youll win fights, solo pvp isn't dead like everyone says, and for everyone who thinks solo pvp includes 1v1 fights, you might get 5 kills a week if your lucky with that and then be tricked for a drake bait or something, i've went out and solo'd for geez the past 6 months now, had a good month of kills Vs. Test one month 130kills and only 26 losses 85% of them were solo, most of the time i was outnumbered at least 5:1, and whenever you actually are in fleets, do you only obey FC's orders do you actually know how to survive solo if he was to get a bluescreen or his internet bug out on him or even catch him out on his mistakes, i never run with fleets anymore, because they're too cautious and will never fight anything if theres 1 ship too many.


You got nice kill board and good statistic in general but after i study close your solo, i cant say your solo is so super, from true solo meaning , in fact i cant study every of your 780+kills form 2010, but lets talk about your last month.

Some examples.

You kill interceptor while you use, bc ferox probably alpha strike.
You kill velator a noob ship with half of empty fits while you use Talos.
You kill some pods solo while you use Talos with buble helps.
You kill some t2 frigates like manti or pve fited hawk with one mid empty slot and warp core stab fited, again in talos.
You kill a lot frigates probably alpha strike again whie using talos.
Some pve fited herons.

All kills in ec-p8r

Come on...

No offence i dont blame you for it, its my view on your case, espetialy you mention about your pvp style int this therad , you also got some more valuabe and impresiv solo kills, like vaga, tornado, but in general like 80-90% of your solo kills are like shoting poor paper targets, and while i wach your kills that you destoy larger ships here two up to 4 pilots involed.

Realy i cant say true solo exist in game when most of my targets are paper frigates or targets smaler than ship i use, or instant alpha target who stop at buble.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

blink alt
Doomheim
#104 - 2012-12-27 23:23:51 UTC
My solo pvp activities are mostly ganking morons. It was fun for about 2 months.
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#105 - 2012-12-27 23:26:17 UTC
OMG, no! It was so young, it had it's whole life ahead of it!! Who killed it?

John Hancock

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#106 - 2012-12-28 03:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Nerf Arbitrator


No need to nerf Arbi, boost silly people who drops few black ops with some low ehp buffor tank vs one tech 1 cruiser with proper ew fit on this occason, even armagedon with 140.000 ehp full timarked and with 3x 1600 plate + full of eamns may melt to sentry in short period.

In my opinion somthing went wrong while they hot drop or they were on drugs.

His EW do most job, espetialy every single tracing disrupt was strong enough to easy disrupt large lazorz tracing, nothing wrong with this, also those modules are fine not OP, he use proper scripts and got t2 rig.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#107 - 2012-12-28 04:16:16 UTC
Solo PVP is dead ? It never existed!
CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#108 - 2012-12-28 04:24:56 UTC
solo pvp's not dead - but its only viable with a string of alts
Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
#109 - 2012-12-28 04:55:57 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
if solo pvp were dead i wouldn't play this awful game


^^this

if you cant find solo pvp your in the wrong area of space.
Olleybear
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#110 - 2012-12-28 05:19:04 UTC
Solo PvP: POD pilot flies around by themselves looking for targets to shoot. Sometimes the targets outnumber the pilot.

1 v 1 PvP: POD pilot flies around by themselves looking for a single target to shoot. No other pilot accompanies the target.

Both of types of PvP are fun and both exist.

Olleybear waves to Crafty

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#111 - 2012-12-28 07:06:19 UTC
Fer DeLance wrote:
Solo PvP in low-sec or 0.0 is a joke. Motherships hotdropping a single t3 cruiser, is a common thing. Actually, when talking about solo PvP most people mean High Sec solo pvp. Steadilly during the latest patches CCP has extinguished the possibillity for "random" high sec solo pvp.


No, hotdropping on a solo pilot is not a common thing. Hotdropping isn't actually common at all in lowsec.

And no, nobody means "high sec solo pvp".

.

Daniel Whateley
#112 - 2013-01-10 13:16:11 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Daniel Whateley wrote:
I was laughing hard when i saw this, but i guess there isn't many solo'ers out there anymore, you take a ship you fly it and attempt to get kills, it might take you a week to get the hang of it but youll get there, sure in a blob of hmm 8 oracles with a couple logi yea youll win fights, solo pvp isn't dead like everyone says, and for everyone who thinks solo pvp includes 1v1 fights, you might get 5 kills a week if your lucky with that and then be tricked for a drake bait or something, i've went out and solo'd for geez the past 6 months now, had a good month of kills Vs. Test one month 130kills and only 26 losses 85% of them were solo, most of the time i was outnumbered at least 5:1, and whenever you actually are in fleets, do you only obey FC's orders do you actually know how to survive solo if he was to get a bluescreen or his internet bug out on him or even catch him out on his mistakes, i never run with fleets anymore, because they're too cautious and will never fight anything if theres 1 ship too many.


You got nice kill board and good statistic in general but after i study close your solo, i cant say your solo is so super, from true solo meaning , in fact i cant study every of your 780+kills form 2010, but lets talk about your last month.

Some examples.

You kill interceptor while you use, bc ferox probably alpha strike.
You kill velator a noob ship with half of empty fits while you use Talos.
You kill some pods solo while you use Talos with buble helps.
You kill some t2 frigates like manti or pve fited hawk with one mid empty slot and warp core stab fited, again in talos.
You kill a lot frigates probably alpha strike again whie using talos.
Some pve fited herons.

All kills in ec-p8r

Come on...

No offence i dont blame you for it, its my view on your case, espetialy you mention about your pvp style int this therad , you also got some more valuabe and impresiv solo kills, like vaga, tornado, but in general like 80-90% of your solo kills are like shoting poor paper targets, and while i wach your kills that you destoy larger ships here two up to 4 pilots involed.

Realy i cant say true solo exist in game when most of my targets are paper frigates or targets smaler than ship i use, or instant alpha target who stop at buble.



you should also check that rapier who actually had me webbed, brutix with his mate nailing me at structure, and many of the other ships in there, 15 pages back there was even a darkside cynabal a whole gang was after me i died ofc cause they had a dramiel(which was smoking too) and was purely outnumbered, solo pvp especially in null sec isn't easy, ive got so many friends who keep telling me their experiences were terrible down there, solo pvp is about making decisions for yourself, doesn't matter if you come out over the top, if you know what to do in a fleet battle for your own sake, if you can point out fc's faults, and assist with a battle, call targets, know what ships you can handle on your own, thats where solo comes into play, whether or not your good at it is a matter of time and practice, if it doesn't work for you then its probably not your kind of pvp, but it is my kind of pvp, and almost all of those frigates HAD me scrammed and webbed and outnumbered.
Amun Doshu
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#113 - 2013-01-10 18:44:13 UTC
solo pvp had never exist in eve except if u have 20 subs and u can control them simultaneously :)
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#114 - 2013-01-10 18:56:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
its an MMO

if you want solo pvp. take it to the arena.

Me outwitting a group is the biggest rush there is.

But.. what about FALCON ?


This

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Amun Doshu
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#115 - 2013-01-10 19:50:29 UTC
Daniel Whateley wrote:

you should also check that rapier who actually had me webbed, brutix with his mate nailing me at structure, and many of the other ships in there, 15 pages back there was even a darkside cynabal a whole gang was after me i died ofc cause they had a dramiel(which was smoking too) and was purely outnumbered, solo pvp especially in null sec isn't easy, ive got so many friends who keep telling me their experiences were terrible down there, solo pvp is about making decisions for yourself, doesn't matter if you come out over the top, if you know what to do in a fleet battle for your own sake, if you can point out fc's faults, and assist with a battle, call targets, know what ships you can handle on your own, thats where solo comes into play, whether or not your good at it is a matter of time and practice, if it doesn't work for you then its probably not your kind of pvp, but it is my kind of pvp, and almost all of those frigates HAD me scrammed and webbed and outnumbered.


sure scrammed and webbed and outnumbered and orbited you on 500 and you killed them with a large gun :) and im the pope
Daniel Whateley
#116 - 2013-01-11 07:13:23 UTC
Amun Doshu wrote:
Daniel Whateley wrote:

you should also check that rapier who actually had me webbed, brutix with his mate nailing me at structure, and many of the other ships in there, 15 pages back there was even a darkside cynabal a whole gang was after me i died ofc cause they had a dramiel(which was smoking too) and was purely outnumbered, solo pvp especially in null sec isn't easy, ive got so many friends who keep telling me their experiences were terrible down there, solo pvp is about making decisions for yourself, doesn't matter if you come out over the top, if you know what to do in a fleet battle for your own sake, if you can point out fc's faults, and assist with a battle, call targets, know what ships you can handle on your own, thats where solo comes into play, whether or not your good at it is a matter of time and practice, if it doesn't work for you then its probably not your kind of pvp, but it is my kind of pvp, and almost all of those frigates HAD me scrammed and webbed and outnumbered.


sure scrammed and webbed and outnumbered and orbited you on 500 and you killed them with a large gun :) and im the pope



lmao, i didn't say he was orbiting me at 500, but he was indeed a noob and approached like the other 20% frigate kills on there, im surprised how many people scram me and then realise i'm still going 1200m\s, and im surprised how many tornados try solo a talos aswell as nagas sniping me from 100km and giving me a chance to travel to them disrupt them and take them out, also surprised how bitter some people get in null sec and decide to hotdrop you just to shut you up.
Daniel Whateley
#117 - 2013-01-11 07:16:25 UTC
although i fly around solo all the time, i always get a laugh at people in local who only have 50+ blob kills littered all over their killboards, and i smile at mine when i see last 5 pages of solo written all over it.
Hidden Space
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2013-01-11 08:22:30 UTC
Daniel Whateley wrote:
although i fly around solo all the time, i always get a laugh at people in local who only have 50+ blob kills littered all over their killboards, and i smile at mine when i see last 5 pages of solo written all over it.

~elite~ ~solo~ PvP
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#119 - 2013-01-11 08:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Yim Sei
That was an awesome read OP many thanks :)

..also gratz to the Arby pilot (if true)

Te pinacle of Eve PvP IMO are battles like the above.
Thats where true skill and luck presides. The true sandbox allows for your enemies mistakes and punishes them - doesnt hold your hand like most MMOs

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.

Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#120 - 2013-01-11 08:37:11 UTC
Is solo pvp dead? Or is winning at solo pvp dead?


Those are two different questions.

And the answer to both of them is "no".

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon