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Garrison Woods
Doomheim
#101 - 2012-12-18 21:46:53 UTC
Capt Starfox wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Garrison Woods wrote:
Funny that. The New Order has recently topped 60 Billion isk in destroyed mining barges and pods, and we're just warming up. I assure you it isn't hard or terribly expensive to murder barges, especially when you work as a team. Most of my gank fits are less than 2 million isk.

Oh and, at least for me, profit has nothing to do with it. I gank because I love Eve, and because I strongly disapprove of bot/bot-aspirant gameplay and entitled whiny carebears.

hth

Regards,

Garrison Woods
Knight of the New Order of Hi-Sec.



i refer back to when i pointed out a few bored players don't really have much of an impact. if you guys enjoy that kind of thing; power to you.

those new order people (they really needed to pick a better name) are, as far as i've been able to tell, just sitting in one system bumping players in ice belts.

you say you disapprove of bot-aspirant gameplay but when you really get down to it, the only difference between a miner popping an asteroid, and a combat pilot popping a ship is how long it takes. miner hits f1, and waits until the asteroid pops, combat pilot hits f1 and waits until the enemy ship pops. neither style of gameplay is particularly "engaging". all the combat pilot does is swap target more frequently, let's face it if every mission was "warp to location and kill the big ship with an OTT amount of ehp" people would instantly switch to amarr ships, hit f1, and come back when the big ship was destroyed. pretty much the same as ice mining, except you wait for a full cargohold instead of a loot can to pop up.

the entire game revolves around "hit f1 and wait" whether you like it or not.


I don't believe he was comparing PvE to Mining, but rather PvP to Mining. In which case there is a huge difference. I agree with you ..a bit on the PvE and Mining. Because, essentially you are running the same course of action/s. However, no matter how you look at it, PvE -as boring as it can get- is still more fun than Mining... Though if you are in a nice fleet with a group of friends/corpmates you know and are having a good time with conversation, then I could see Mining being fun and engaging. But, nevertheless level 4's are still more fun than Mining. And PvP is way more engaging than Mining will ever be. I think most of us can agree on at least that and I reread your post and looks like you were comparing it to PvE combat missions, so no need to continue.



I wouldn't know anything about PVE stuff. Don't really bother with the horrible PVE content in this game. If I wanted no interaction PvE, there's WoW or STO or some other garbage mmo for that isn't there? I mean why sub to a PVP-centric mmo to play by yourself doing crap so boring that you need to " do laundry " to occupy your time?
Dave Stark
#102 - 2012-12-18 21:48:14 UTC
Capt Starfox wrote:
I don't believe he was comparing PvE to Mining, but rather PvP to Mining. In which case there is a huge difference. I agree with you ..a bit on the PvE and Mining. Because, essentially you are running the same course of action/s. However, no matter how you look at it, PvE -as boring as it can get- is still more fun than Mining... Though if you are in a nice fleet with a group of friends/corpmates you know and are having a good time with conversation, then I could see Mining being fun and engaging. But, nevertheless level 4's are still more fun than Mining. And PvP is way more engaging than Mining will ever be. I think most of us can agree on at least that and I reread your post and looks like you were comparing it to PvE combat missions, so no need to continue.


i find pve less interesting than mining because while mining i can do other things, in pve i can't. i don't have time to watch that funny youtube video or reply to a message etc because ships pop far faster than asteroids.

i did a level 4 and all i could think was "i wish these ships had more ehp so i could go and do something less boring, like mining"

i also tried pvp once, the FC called a name, i pressed f1 and... i see a pattern here.
Garrison Woods
Doomheim
#103 - 2012-12-18 21:48:21 UTC
AstraPardus wrote:
My alt is AFK mining while I do most things...so...free materials, why not?



Where do you mine? Just curious. Twisted
Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#104 - 2012-12-18 22:01:31 UTC
Dave stark wrote:


i find pve less interesting than mining because while mining i can do other things, in pve i can't. i don't have time to watch that funny youtube video or reply to a message etc because ships pop far faster than asteroids.

i did a level 4 and all i could think was "i wish these ships had more ehp so i could go and do something less boring, like mining"

i also tried pvp once, the FC called a name, i pressed f1 and... i see a pattern here.

I understand. Personally I enjoyed running level 4's when I did it.. but after running the same missions a hundred times started to get boring. Right now want to get back into Low/Null. If Mining is your thing, then more power to ya', though there are more than a few people who would like to shoot at you... call it whatever you will and maybe it's just because you can "afk" away from the computer and watch that video, or walk the dog, or what not. To each his own.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#105 - 2012-12-18 22:26:55 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
I go on the forums and post the truth about the superiority of Hi Sec.

Hi sec, the SUPERIOR sec.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#106 - 2012-12-18 22:45:18 UTC  |  Edited by: AstraPardus
Garrison Woods wrote:
AstraPardus wrote:
My alt is AFK mining while I do most things...so...free materials, why not?



Where do you mine? Just curious. Twisted


In nullsec, come on by. My friends and I will greet you with a Home Defence fleet. >:3
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#107 - 2012-12-18 22:47:51 UTC
Quote:

Funny that. The New Order has recently topped 60 Billion isk in destroyed mining barges and pods, and we're just warming up. I assure you it isn't hard or terribly expensive to murder barges, especially when you work as a team. Most of my gank fits are less than 2 million isk.

Oh and, at least for me, profit has nothing to do with it. I gank because I love Eve, and because I strongly disapprove of bot/bot-aspirant gameplay and entitled whiny carebears.

hth

Regards,

Garrison Woods
Knight of the New Order of Hi-Sec.



Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.
Lin Suizei
#108 - 2012-12-18 22:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin Suizei
Zeko Rena wrote:
Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.


Wow, that's a fantastic argument. Let's me see how many ganks that's prevented so far...

Oh right, none.

Edit: bro.

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.
Garrison Woods
Doomheim
#109 - 2012-12-18 23:03:02 UTC
Zeko Rena wrote:
Quote:

Funny that. The New Order has recently topped 60 Billion isk in destroyed mining barges and pods, and we're just warming up. I assure you it isn't hard or terribly expensive to murder barges, especially when you work as a team. Most of my gank fits are less than 2 million isk.

Oh and, at least for me, profit has nothing to do with it. I gank because I love Eve, and because I strongly disapprove of bot/bot-aspirant gameplay and entitled whiny carebears.

hth

Regards,

Garrison Woods
Knight of the New Order of Hi-Sec.



Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.



Wow. Are you defending bot gameplay? For real. I don't even.... People like you make me fear for the future of this awesome game.

A thousand ganks upon your household sir, for having such an ignorant opinion.

And btw, noone who supports bot gameplay will ever be my "bro". Just sayin'
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#110 - 2012-12-18 23:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeko Rena
Garrison Woods wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
Quote:

Funny that. The New Order has recently topped 60 Billion isk in destroyed mining barges and pods, and we're just warming up. I assure you it isn't hard or terribly expensive to murder barges, especially when you work as a team. Most of my gank fits are less than 2 million isk.

Oh and, at least for me, profit has nothing to do with it. I gank because I love Eve, and because I strongly disapprove of bot/bot-aspirant gameplay and entitled whiny carebears.

hth

Regards,

Garrison Woods
Knight of the New Order of Hi-Sec.



Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.



Wow. Are you defending bot gameplay? For real. I don't even.... People like you make me fear for the future of this awesome game.

A thousand ganks upon your household sir, for having such an ignorant opinion.

And btw, noone who supports bot gameplay will ever be my "bro". Just sayin'



I don't consider mining bot gameplay, so no I am not defending it, I mean, I could consider ganking bot gameplay, it takes about as much effort as mining.

Lock ship, press F1, kill something that took no skill, wait for Concord, dock pod in station, buy ship from my sell order, rinse repeat.

The only difference is that a miner is in the belt for a tad longer each time

I was mearly pointing out that you might have trouble getting cheap gank ships if mining was removed, unless you want ISK to be removed and everything be free, then I am tottaly with you on that one Smile
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#111 - 2012-12-18 23:13:20 UTC
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.


Wow, that's a fantastic argument. Let's me see how many ganks that's prevented so far...

Oh right, none.

Edit: bro.


Who said I was trying to prevent ganks, people are buying my destroyers left right and center from ganking miners, please don't stop ganking!
Garrison Woods
Doomheim
#112 - 2012-12-18 23:20:22 UTC
Zeko Rena wrote:
Garrison Woods wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
Quote:

Funny that. The New Order has recently topped 60 Billion isk in destroyed mining barges and pods, and we're just warming up. I assure you it isn't hard or terribly expensive to murder barges, especially when you work as a team. Most of my gank fits are less than 2 million isk.

Oh and, at least for me, profit has nothing to do with it. I gank because I love Eve, and because I strongly disapprove of bot/bot-aspirant gameplay and entitled whiny carebears.

hth

Regards,

Garrison Woods
Knight of the New Order of Hi-Sec.


Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.



I don't consider mining bot gameplay, so no I am not defending it, I mean, I could consider ganking bot gameplay, it takes about as much effort as mining.



You could consider it the same. You'd be wrong, but hey. And trust me, we arent buying any ships from your sell orders.

Nice contradiction btw. All that afk botting has clearly fried your brain. Before you insult my playstyle, maybe you should make up your mind about yours. (Protip: you were right the first time.)
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#113 - 2012-12-18 23:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeko Rena
Garrison Woods wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
Garrison Woods wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
Quote:

Funny that. The New Order has recently topped 60 Billion isk in destroyed mining barges and pods, and we're just warming up. I assure you it isn't hard or terribly expensive to murder barges, especially when you work as a team. Most of my gank fits are less than 2 million isk.

Oh and, at least for me, profit has nothing to do with it. I gank because I love Eve, and because I strongly disapprove of bot/bot-aspirant gameplay and entitled whiny carebears.

hth

Regards,

Garrison Woods
Knight of the New Order of Hi-Sec.


Its gonna be pretty hard to keep buying and fitting ships for les than 2 million if no one did "bot/bot-aspriant gameplay" like mining, bro.



I don't consider mining bot gameplay, so no I am not defending it, I mean, I could consider ganking bot gameplay, it takes about as much effort as mining.



You could consider it the same. You'd be wrong, but hey. And trust me, we arent buying any ships from your sell orders.

Nice contradiction btw. All that afk botting has clearly fried your brain. Before you insult my playstyle, maybe you should make up your mind about yours. (Protip: you were right the first time.)


I dont' afk mine, but if I did I would be less likely to have a fried brain as I would be doing other things and not staring at a computer screen, you see there are advantages to having three screens, two EVE clients on two screens, and Far Cry 3 on the third, or perhaps Borderlands 2, depending on my mood Smile

You yourself may not be buying my ships, but people are and its the popular gank ships that are selling like hot cakes, especially with the recent rise in gankers in the local area over the past few weeks, I have also barely begun to insult your playstyle but I have no real intrest in doing so.

I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game, but if that were to happen your play style would cease to exist, and my source of income would drop dramatically Cry
Lin Suizei
#114 - 2012-12-18 23:38:35 UTC
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#115 - 2012-12-18 23:41:31 UTC
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.



Oh, I get it...I don't get a snappy comeback because I use my alt to AFK mine in NULLSEC, and you guys are too afraid to go there? AmIrite? 
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Dave Stark
#116 - 2012-12-18 23:41:36 UTC
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.


define "like a human", please.
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#117 - 2012-12-18 23:47:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeko Rena
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.



Perhaps I have taken Garrison's first post the wrong way.

The way I read it is he was saying that Mining is a style of game play that you can be as dumb as a bot to do and as such should be removed from the game.

If you were refering to removing only bots as such and keeping mining then I apologise Garrison. I would be all for that, because at the end of the day I would love bots to be removed entierly, because they are taking precious ore that I spent my own time trying to mine and I have to compete with them...

There still seem to be a lot of bots out there as well, with the amount of ganks I see and yet the player who got ganked does not respond in anyway when the ganker taunts them in local after.

I would fully support some form of permit system if it meant the end of actual bots in EVE, as long as it isn't game breaking
Garrison Woods
Doomheim
#118 - 2012-12-18 23:50:31 UTC
AstraPardus wrote:
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.



Oh, I get it...I don't get a snappy comeback because I use my alt to AFK mine in NULLSEC, and you guys are too afraid to go there? AmIrite?



Lol, if thinking that makes you happy. Afraid, in a videogame... You're silly :p
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#119 - 2012-12-18 23:56:28 UTC
Garrison Woods wrote:
AstraPardus wrote:
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.



Oh, I get it...I don't get a snappy comeback because I use my alt to AFK mine in NULLSEC, and you guys are too afraid to go there? AmIrite?



Lol, if thinking that makes you happy. Afraid, in a videogame... You're silly :p


I am silly, and that is totally beside the point. :3
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2012-12-18 23:57:49 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Lin Suizei wrote:
Zeko Rena wrote:
I am actually kind of confused because you seem to want mining removed from the game


No-one (at least not among the New Order that I know of) wants mining removed from the game. We want highsec miners to mine with a Permit - like a human - instead of pretending to be bots all day.


define "like a human", please.


Oh boy.